LOL That's not what they were saying after Nevada where Obama won more, was it ?
LOL
It is only a delegate fight when they lose.

Please SC
Vote to defeat that women
Billary
America's corrupt couple.

Just say no to their slimy racist politics

Wolfson is Clintonianly incoherent.

Despite efforts by the Obama campaign to ignore Floridians, their voices will be heard loud and clear across the country

This remains a delegate fight, with 1,681 delegates at stake on February 5th

Or------------maybe he knows something about the Florida delgates which he is not sharing with us---I thought the Florida situation...............never mind what I thought. I hve to obey the rules and wait until February to vote.

HRC loses 5% in the latest Rasmussen daily tracking poll--the largest single drop (or gain) in one day this cycle. Since that poll is based on a four day rolling average, she must have had a terrible day. Rasmussen Reports says:

As South Carolina voters go to the poll, the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination has gotten much tighter. It’s now Hillary Clinton 36%, Barack Obama 33% and John Edwards 18% (see recent daily numbers). Obama is expected to win in South Carolina and Dick Morris believes that Bill Clinton’s temper is starting to hurt Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

All in good fun Greg. You are a good sport.

Besides, I really don't think that EVERY Sgt post should begin

We are The Clintons and we approved this message

Sufficiently transparent and not terribly unbalanced.

Kudos to Eric too

Some day my prince will come
Some day we'll meet again
And away to his castle we'll go
To be happy forever I know
Some day when spring is here
We'll find our love anew
And the birds will sing
And wedding bells will ring
Some day when my dreams come true

coyote:

It's also possible that Clinton had a great day that just fell off the chart. Either way, an encouraging result for Obama and Edwards.

Good point, awrbb.

This is funny stuff:

Despite efforts by the Obama campaign to ignore Floridians, their voices will be heard loud and clear across the country, as the last state to vote before Super Tuesday on February 5th.

Ignore Floridians? Wasn't the Clinton campaign just having aploplexy a couple of days ago over the fact that an Obama ad was playing in Florida? So Obama was courting Floridians before he was ignoring Floridians?

Is the media going to fall for this?

Ouch. Did I just ask that?

Truly amazing how such a bland, boilerplate campaign statement can arouse such passions in Obama supporters.

Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of post-SC state primary polls being released show your candidate losing decisively to Clinton. Those measures are not the work of the Clinton machine. Those polls reflect the opinions of serious, discerning voters.

If those voters only knew the natures of many of the loons supporting Obama (revealed on these pages), Clinton's margins would increase considerably overnight. Actually, I suspect many of them do instinctively and those gut feelings are contributing to Clinton's margins.

NCSteve: But the four day averaging smooths out variances. So it would have to be one heckuva blip.

"Despite efforts by the Obama campaign to ignore Floridians"
All of the major candidates agreed to forgo campaigning in Florida per the DNC rules to discourage alteration of the nomination schedule. Clinton only wanted the delegates after she knew she would carry the state...geez.

"Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of post-SC state primary polls being released show your candidate losing decisively to Clinton."
We all know how well those polls have worked and how quickly they change.

Am I the only one sick of the dizzying nature of the Clintonian spin cycle?

This part was my favorite.

Regardless of today’s outcome, the race quickly shifts to Florida, where hundreds of thousands of Democrats will turn out to vote on Tuesday.

Despite efforts by the Obama campaign to ignore Floridians, their voices will be heard loud and clear across the country, as the last state to vote before Super Tuesday on February 5th.

Wow. And I thought Rudy's Florida gambit was desperate and pathetic. Are they now worried about a third place showing in S.C. or, alternately, about a bigger than expected Obama win? Their decision to activate OPERATION: SUNSHINE would seem to indicate that's the case.

Look at what's happened over the last week. The ridiculous attempt to spin Obama going national on cable as an excuse for Clinton to campaign in Florida. (Somehow in the MSM bothered to ask Wolfson how advertising on cable was "campaigning in Florida," but Hillary's advertising on the Internet wasn't. I'm pretty sure they have Internet access down there). The recemt "fundraising" trips to Florida they scheduled. The sudden explicit pander to the Florida "we're the victims of evil disenfranchisers" argument. The Nelson endorsement--not clear whether its a quid pro quo for the pander or just a card they'd long held and had been waiting to play.

On the other hand, if you have absolutely no sense of shame and believe that playing by the rules is for chumps, why not do it regardless of what happens in SC.

(Oh, and Bill Nelson. Boy, is he the veritable posterboy for the "the Democrats were the party of ideas in the 90's" argument, or what?)

Boy, is he the veritable posterboy for the "the Democrats were the party of ideas in the 90's" argument, or what?)

Yes.

Another edition of simple answers....

CT Voter

"And I'm guessing that Georgia is going to have to be swept into the dustbin of crazed Obama fanatics because he's ahead of Clinton there."

Last I saw, he wasn't ahead there by much and he is ahead there for the same reasons he is ahead in SC.

I'm not going to disparage the choice of Georgia voters but I will say the following:

1) The Democratic primary electorate in Georgia is less than representative of the the Democratic electorate in the states that follow;

2) No Democrat is going to come remotely close to winning Georgia in the Fall so the view of the Democratic primary electorate is a very minority view in a solidly Republican presidential state. I would say the same thing if we were talking about Nebraska. Georgia was the only state in the nation where two Democratic congressmen, who were not plagued by personal issues, had close races in 2006.

Congrats to Obama on his up coming win in S.C. NJ has Hillary back and it looks like C.A. N.Y. etc looks good for her. Will back Obama if he get the nomination.

Listening to Wolfson, it's clear the Clinton camp is the campaign of Karl Rove. Do we really want this type of political bull crap?

Where are the "tears" from the co-dependent team?

Cute. "it's a delegate" fight, and hey, "let's see what happens in florida," BOTH in the same memo. Wow. That Wolfson guy is unbelievable sometimes. Of course we all know that florida get's ZERO delegates.

If the Clintons could have their way, they would try to strip delegates from every state, make it against the rules to campaign there, just so they can stay popular and so that no one can hear what Obama has to say, and then at the last minute give them their votes back. The only reason Hillary is ahead is, well there are two reasons:

1) She is Bill's wife, and she wouldn't even be a senator, let alone a presidential candidate, let alone the frontrunner if she had never been married to him, or, if she would have divorced him for cheating on her with a boat load of women.
2) She is the most well know candidate, Democrats have had it in their minds for years that they support Hillary, and so she is the default candidate, so the less voters know about their other choices, the more they will just default to Hillary and call it a day. Ignorance and apathy are the Clintons' best friends in this campaign, which makes it not surprising that they have been lying to voters this entire campaign.

Chris wrote:

"Democrats have had it in their minds for years that they support Hillary, and so she is the default candidate, so the less voters know about their other choices, the more they will just default to Hillary and call it a day."

Another arrogant and presumptuous Obamamite speaks!

Actually, the opposite phenomena occurred with me. I had it in my mind that I wouldn't support her and most Democrats would go with someone else if they had a good choice. I thought Obama might be that choice.

Then, I started tuning in during the Fall debates. What I saw was that Obama was unimpressive in debate and far less ready for the presidency (at least by the perceptions of this voter) than Clinton.

You just might want to challenge your own perceptions of the narrative. Perhaps the opposite of what you are describing is just as realistic and representative of what is going on in the minds of voters as your spin of the situation.

awrbb wrote on January 26, 2008 2:39 PM:

I'm glad to hear Wolfson is finally conceding Nevada.

Nice.

And a tie in NH, no?

Jose wrote:

"i guarantee if you ask either of those guys who they would prefer at the top of the ticket, they will tell you Obama in a second. they are in BIG trouble if hillary is at the top, and they know it."

Of course you are able to guarantee this conclusion because you have spoken to each of these representatives and each has given you his assurances that you are correct

no but i have worked on enough campaigns on down ticket races to know how important the top of the ticket is in any presidential year. In a midterm year (2006) with incredibly high turnout nationwide, less than 150,000 people voted in each GA-08 and GA-12. That is very low turnout. You put Billary at the top in rural GA (bob barr anyone?) and it's not rocket science. It's simple logic.

By stressing the issue of experience, Hillary Clinton inadvertently raises the question of whether her experience really measures up to her claims. On the campaign trail, she brags that she has "35 years of experience"—-which suggests that she expects to get credit not only for her time as first lady of the United States but also for her time as first lady of Arkansas, not to mention her time practicing law in Little Rock.

What Clinton doesn't mention is that she has just under eight years of experience in elective office—-one more than John Edwards and four fewer than Obama. Being first lady no doubt has some value as preparation for the Oval Office, but no one would suggest that Laura Bush should run for president.

In 1992, of course, Bill Clinton, then a youthful 46, took the view that experience was overrated. He had a point: Richard Nixon was a failure despite years in high office in Washington, while Ronald Reagan was a success even though his entire political resume consisted of two terms as a governor. By the time Clinton completed his presidency, most Democrats would have said he proved that fresh ideas trump establishment credentials.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/123627.html

In fact, since I am a Ph.D., I think very few of you can compete with me on the basis of educational attainment. I am not saying that I am smarter than you, but I certainly am more educated than most of you.

Insulting, and, making assumptions about the others, because despite all your careful reasoning and pointing out of "reality", people still persist in disagreeing with you. Must be pretty frustrating.

Just for the record, lombard, I have a Ph.D., I can compete with you on the basis of educational attainment and I'm guessing that more than few others on this page could so the same, and I'm not going to make any assumptions about the median income of posters on this page because who cares about income?

If you make more money than every one else here then your arguments are supposed to bear more weight?

CT VOTER,

You don't read very closely. I was not stating anything about the quality of my judgments. I was disputing the bigoted classifications of Clinton supporters that I read on these pages.

I don't label Obama supporters as uneducated and uninformed but I read those charges from them about Clinton supporters all of the time.

I've just begun reading some of the comments on these threads and I continue to be amazed at the rudeness and vitriol expressed in the Obama supporters comments. They sound more like Ron Paul supporters or even worse, republicans.

Unbelievable.

Where is the Clinton's integrity? This election is not just about Bill and Hillary scoring a victory--this is about America, American's and the future of this country in the world's eyes. Do we want to show the world this is what we stand in this country-do everything and anything to get what you want? How can anyone trust these people to take over our country? I hope Americans are reading these articles and realizing that winning is nothing if you lose your soul and integrity doing it.

Please America, just say NO to the Clintons.

Lombard:
Presumably, one as educated as you would also be aware that Hillary had a sizeable lead (based on name recognition alone) in every state well in advance of polling, but that as the actual date of the primary neared, that lead has diminished. In every case.
Stated another way, the better people get to know Hillary, the less they like her. Conversely, it appears that Obama's support only grows as the voters get to know him better.
So, contrary to your original post, one can assume that the "serious, discerning voters" of the super-Tuesday states will follow this trend, and that Hillary's margins will shrink, if not disappear altogether.
And if that doesn't happen, well, we'll just have to assume that all those uneducated poor racist women came out in force.

Get ready
TO celebrate
The end of the Bush-Clinton era of politics
Go SC
Billary in third place

Umm...minus the superdelegates, isn't Obama ahead now...?

Who cares? The superdelegates vote at the convention, so it is entirely proper to include them when totalling the delegate counts for each campaign. Meanwhile, I am hard pressed to see how this memo can occasion any disagreement (except for the fatuous throw-away line about Florida). Of course this race is a competition for delegates. It is delegates that get one the nomination, just as it is peer-reviewed publications that get a junior faculty member tenure or wins during the regular season that get a ballclub a slot in the play-offs. Obama knows this just as well as Clinton does, so I hardly see why my fellow Obama supporters should push back at the claim.

If you took hillary out of this race I wonder how much coverage it could maintain in the days of regan regan bush carter it was so boring I say they add the spice give us something to bitch about and they must be very feared cause everyone is so upset by them I just think they are both so very smart and here in ga in gwinnett there are a bunch of closet clintons wives .