Is he going to sleep through all of the speeches by African Americans while he is there? I think if he can't bring himself to show a little more respect (you know, the kind an honored guest would show, or a former president, or any decent respectful person) at African American events, especially ones commemorating Martin Luther King Jr, he should probably just stay home.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/21/clinton-caught-dozing-off_n_82542.html

He was obviously exhausted from walking up and down the Vegas strip using his elite detective work and his super sensitive eyes and ears to ferret out all that voter intimidation that he claimed he saw going on right in front of him, even though he didn't offer names or locations or attempt to protect the rights of the voters.

Leave the poor brave man alone. He's got a lot of walking to do before Saturday.

greg, you obviously are a hillary supporter and cotrary to what you might think, she is not the best candidate out there. Hillary is very condesending and patronizing and has nothing to back her up. Her intelligence is nothing spectacular along with her record. She hasnt been in congress that long and yet she accuses others of not taking reponsibiltiy? What a joke. She hasn't taken respnsibility for her record on the Iraq war period. She votes with the prevailing right-wing current constantly and only buckles when the tide is against her. Just like Bush. Last nights debates just brought out all the bad qualities about this woman that I knew were there in the first place. Best candidate indeed.

I am glad he is going to stick around. It will help the Obama campaign, especially if he does some more red-faced finger waving. What a diminished and pathetic figure he has become!

hadenough, it actually has been mentioned on here, and it is a semi-old story, from last summer.

But you of course know all of that. You probably also know that the Clintons have many many more shady skeletons in their closet, so throwing stones from a glass house and trying to muddy Obama's image probably isn't the best strategy, since the Clintons are currently benefiting from a fair bit of general public scandal amnesia. We wouldn't want to disturb that by trying to hype up this non-story now would we?

I'm a big Obama supporter, still think he will win the nomination and the Presidency, but the Rezko thing was tit for tat, Obama started the fight last night, he used the Wal-Mart line and she immediately replied with the Rezko thing. She may have started the fight on the campaign trail, but he started it in the debate and I didn't expect her to sit there and take it, I still won't vote for her (in the primary) but she didn't start the fight last night.

Matthew, he saw how deftly Clinton played the victim card, and decided that his best bet was to play the foil to Obama this time around.

Plus, my inner cynic says that Edwards and Clinton are competing for some of the same voters down there in SC, and John figured he'd win more support attacking Obama than he would going head on at Clinton (that damn victim card again *sigh*)

Hillary is letting Bill fight her nasty battles for her so she can try to buff up that crying damsel persona that put her through in New Hampshire. So much for that vaunted giant step for women.

Hey gals, if you have a popular ex-president husband who can do your campaigning for you, you can be anything, even president. But it helps to cry and show that emotional side so people feel sorry for you.

This is an embarrassment.

I think it underestimates or attempts to distract to say Clinton is playing the victim card. Bill is Hillary's not-so-secret weapon to counter Obama in the Black community. His continued popularity is unmistakeable and his success as president is at this point kind of in-your-face to Obama who, however poorly or misinterpretted, placed Reagan and Republican ideas over Clinton and Democracts.

It may sound cute to say Hillary is trying to ride Bill's coattails but she is a very different candidate and I'm sure will be a different and independent president. Hopefully as successful.

For those of you who don't know about Obama's good friend and partner Rezko...this article just tells a bit about their relationship....something Obama is desperately trying to keep secret
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko_both_20jan20,0,142713.story

Stirling, I saw that same debate, weird huh? Apparently the Hillbots get a different channel.

And Bupalos, you are absolutely correct, having Hillary as our first female president should be every feminist's worst nightmare. I consider myself a feminist, and I'm personally disgusted with how she has ridden her entire "career" on Bill's coattails, and how she can't even win a primary election without having him come and throw his star power, and all of his energy (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/21/clinton-caught-dozing-off_n_82542.html thanks for the link) into viciously attacking and lying about her opponents. If she becomes our first female president it will be a dark day for any real feminist. It will only be a victory for those women who can't look past Woman + White House to see that it is indeed very disturbing to women who have went far on their own merits, or to little girls who will get to grow up knowing that they need to marry into power and have a man blaze the trail for them so they can go all the way. I think this is where the generational divide with women comes in. The younger and more educated generations of women see the broader implications of all this in terms of feminism, whereas the older generations just see a woman and want her in the White House no matter what. Anyway, I have been saying this from the beginning and you are absolutely right.

Rob Davies--

Not only is he campaigning harder against Barack Obama than he did against W, he is campaigning harder against him than he did a war that he was against (so he says).

Rob, 2004 is a bit unfair. Kerry wasn't someone very inspiring. Kerry failed to even defend himself.

On this it is refreshing that this time around that, not only the Democrats, but even the Republicans have a better mix of candidates. (Look at the caliber of Clinton, Obama, McCain, and Romney, all solid, some weak but still, good candidates. The others, well, every one of them are better that the village idiot from Texas, George Bush.)

Noir, very low blow, Hillary is no George Bush!!!

How true!

Mrs. Clinton has never been a candidate in her own right and in SC, she isn't a candidate at all

one wrote on January 22, 2008 12:55 PM:

Too much baggage tagged yesterday folks!

I attended a Clinton rally on the West Coast in the fall, was mildly impressed with her speech and given what I knew at the time felt she was ready. Events of the past weeks have totally changed my view; note I did say mildly impressed. Bill & Hilliary Clinton remain creatures of Bill's pass, the good and bad. I believe the good as well as bad is not what is claimed by themselves, friends and foes; the assumption that all will remember and accept the Clinton's narrative, spin and meme is truly bankrupt.
The reflexive attacks on Obama were misplaced, largely because they had little meaning in and of themselves; among his responses he did raises Bill's role in the campaign and did draw clear distinctions in vision and style between himself and the Clintons. In short the underlying trite approach she chose and Bill's Big Dawg's footprint hurt her more than whatever points she may have scored against Obama. As a friend noted, he though she was better; I suspect many more have this view. This high wire baggage act will not hunt well which leaves the Clinton's with "the devil made me do it" routine. Given the pass sixteen years of the Bill & Hill Drama, Bush & Co's Dumb Dreams, and generational shifts, the public has had enough. Candidates fears have not won too many elections.