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Another New York Paper Endorses Obama

This one is interesting, because it cuts against the idea that there is some sort of tacit alliance between Rupert Murdoch and the Clintons: Another of Hillary's hometown papers, the Murdoch-owned New York Post, has thrown its endorsement to Barack Obama.

Of course, not a lot of New York Democrats take their cues from the Post, but it's still noteworthy.


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AUTHOR: Irishamerican
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DATE: 01/30/2008 04:31:11 PM

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Greg:

What other NY papers have endorsed Obama?

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That endorsement ranks right up there with the Las Vegas Review Journal (I think that was the name) endorsement. I can't imagine it does anything.

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About Florida:

The 857,208+ people who voted for Hillary Clinton say it's real. For Obama supporters--or just Hillary haters in general--to cry election fraud in New Hampshire to turn around and plead for the voiding of a vote that almost 2 million Democrats participated in is sickening.

You know damn well that if the tables were reversed it would be more "Clinton voter suppression."

Clinton cleaned Obama's clock in the first state with a large population to vote (unless you count another "phony" victory, in Michigan) after days of establishment Democrats pillorying Bill Clinton.

And when you look at the exits, please explain why Hillary is winning among people who identify amount VERY LIBERAL and LIBERAL and your guy is only winning among CONSERVATIVES.

Sounds like despite the toxic Hillary hatred in the blogosphere she represents the Democratic Wing of the Democratic party.

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Dear Keith,

I believe it was the NY Observer which endorsed Obama last week. Meanwhile, I think that CB gets this right. The NY Post is hardly a great score for Obama. In my book, the Post's endorsement counts against the candidate who receives it.

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Well, shoot! And I thought Murdoch was Hillary's patron...well, that's at least what most Obama supporters once said.

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Keith wrote on January 30, 2008 4:32 PM:
Greg:

What other NY papers have endorsed Obama?

>>> Greg may just try to emplify Obama support in NY. If I guess, New York Daily News is likely to endorse Obama. The publisher Mort Zuckerman appears to like Obama but he is a zionist so maybe he would have problem with Obama's anti-war stand.

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Really more anti-Clinton than pro-Obama, isn't it. It's like we don't hate this guy, though we still thinks he's unfit to serve. Who'd of thought I'd ever agree, if just in part, with a NY post editorial.

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The New York Observer's endorsement of Obama.

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This "endorsement" of Obama was to Clinton as the Times' "endorsement" of McCain was to Il Douche--a thinly veiled swipe at someone the editorial board detests. Though the Times did write much nicer things about Clinton than the typically churlish Post did about Obama.

As a New Yorker (and Obama supporter) I can say that the NYT endorsement matters a little, and none of the other ones at all. We're a pretty well-informed bunch, and tend to reach our own conclusions.

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Dude,

Do you not see how billing yourself "Tony Rezko" might undermine your message decrying "toxic Hillary hatred"?

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Hey "Tony Rezko" --
Your gloating aggressive approach to fellow Democrats is extremely off-putting. IF she wins the nomination, she will need the vast majority of Obama and Edwards supporters to back her in the general. Your and many of you compatriates' approach -- and particularly your use as a screen name of a BS "scandal" of which your own candidate has dozens -- are almost as inimical to that goal as anonymous HRC staffers opining in the papers about "black candidates" and the supposed animosity between African Americans and Latinos. That made it hard; you guys need to make sure you don't make it impossible.

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I'm sure this is about as welcome to Obama as Redstate.com's endorsement of Hillary was to her.

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Yeah, this seems more like a setback for Obama than anything. Luckily the other news items this week are so noisy that the New York Post will probably be drowned out.

Did the Village Voice or whoever do an endorsement?

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Thanks for those who responded. As for the "endorsement", it muust be all the rage of conservative leaning papers, the anti-endorsement endorsement.

This one won't be posted on the Obama website.

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Thanks Peacemaker, the Tony Rezko name is childish and represents behavior more suited for an Obama supporter. Clinton backers don't have to stoop to their level to make a point, he should cut it out.

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the Tony Rezko name is childish and represents behavior more suited for an Obama supporter.

and yet it's a clinton supporter using it. shocking. go take some mylanta, you old fart.

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Tony, what are you doing here?

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Yeah Tony, we were supposed to all meet up for lunch. What gives?

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Norman, what's up bud? i see the lincoln bedroom in our respective futures, no?

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Yeah, um "Tony" pretty much every single thing you said is crap, and just screams ignorance. I'm really embarrassed for you, and consequently I'm embarrassed to be in the same party as you.

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the NY Post endorsement is a regular riot, given that an early anti-Hillary meme was that she was buddy-buddy with Murdoch! in reality, not so much...

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What a great endorsement.

We really don't know what he'll do and we don't like much that we've heard, but at least he ain't a Clinton.

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Hey Norman, Tony and Marc. Let's do lunch soon.

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She appears to be crumbling. What happens when Edwards and Gore endorse Obama. How do the Clintons recover?

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It is SO NOT TRUE that NY democrats don't read the Post. Maybe affluent ones don't, but TONS of working-class and blue-collar democrats and independents read the Post.

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It is easy to dismiss the Post as irrelevant-- a right wing paper owned by Murdoch, more damaging to Obama than helpful


But ride the subway or the PATH train, and you'll soon see that the Post and the Daily News are the newspapers you want. Their circulation in the metro area is way above the Times (which only beats their numbers because of their national sales). These are the papers read by the voters that everyone says is Hillary's base -- white ethnic blue collar men and women. These folks aren't the elite liberals who read the Times. If this endorsement - and the derisive news coverage they sometimes give Hillary -- eats away at her margin among those voters, it would be very bad news for Hillary indeed.

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Lifelongdem is absolutely on the money. It's too bad that the endorsement is cast in such negative terms, but the tabloids have massive audiences, and they are by no means exclusively republican.

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Agreed Lifelongdem.

I am a little afraid to see that headline however. Something along the lines of "Post Says: Ditch the Bitch" would be very much in line with their editorial policies.

Still, this is good news for Obama.

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Hey Rezko, who you calling toxic, yah hater?

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That Barack Obama has received the endorsement of people like Tom Daschle, John Kerry and Edward Kennedy pretty much tells me all I need to know about where he's coming from. He's the political equivalent of beer foam -- when all the bubbles dissipate, Democrats will be left with nothing but a sticky residue.

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I was out of town last week and didn't have time to log on. So I was pleasantly surprised to find out that the NYT endorsed HRC, but I couldn't find a headline on TPM about this at all? What happened? But you list another NY city paper endorses Obama? I didn't think TPM was biased against HRC before, but I'm starting to have my doubts now. Where's the link to that endorsement of HRC by the NYT? Be fair and/or balanced or I'll stop coming here.

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This is a really good reason not to vote for Hill/Billy. More of the same garbage we've had to endure for 16 years. The lobby brigade ready from "Day One".


http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0805,thompson,78998,6.html

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CT Voter,

I don't read the NYT so I appreciate your appraisal. Like you, I am now a little more sanguine about Fox News. At least with them, no one has any illusions. I do think they have toned down their partisanship in the last couple of years. Maybe they realized they had to in order to maintain some level of credibility.

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This is not worth acknowledging. They are just trying to beat Hellary down. Newcorp is basically Karl Rove's mouthpiece. Why even print it here? I hate Hellary too, but I certainly don't attribute any weight to the New York Post's opinion.

Nader '08.

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MonaL - most folks that regularly use the phrase fair and balanced aren't really aware of what it means. Here's the link to TPM's coverage of the NYT endorsement for Clinton:

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/new_york_times_endorses_hillary.php

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@MonaL

They did report the NYT endorsement.

You're welcome.

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Do not discount the value of this endorsement.

The average citizen in NYC reads this newspaper. Although it is a conservative newspaper it reaches a lot of people as it only costs .50. Hillary has the endorsement of highbrow NYT but a lot NYT readers are endorsing Obama.

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The Post is known in NY as just another tabloid piece of trash! This ridiculous 'endorsement' shows the bottom feeder it has always been.

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Oh oh -- The Hillabots are upset 'cause the Queen didn't get the endorsement of the New York newspaper that is read by all the people who are supposedly supporting her!

How do you say Sour Grapes?

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Murdoch's right wing media empire knows that it will be really easy to defeat a guy named Barack HUSSEIN OSAMA OBAMA in the general election.
News Corp knows it's audience really well, and they will not be voting for some guy who sounds like he flew an airplane into the World Trade Center towers.

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Gee, do you suppose The Wall St. Journal will now, also, endorse Obama?

Rupert Murdoch owns that too.

Do the Obama supporters, here, now love Rupert Murdoch?

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Endorsements are great, but this has become a state-by-state, gloves-off, two person race. Hillary and Barack are now mano a mano. It's a dogfight. A horserace. Bill should stay out of it. Michelle should stay out of it. This is about the heart and soul of the Democratic Party.

Put them in the ring. Battle Royale. No one leaves alive.

Let's git it on.

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Rupert Murdoch seems to like Obama mainly because he is not a Clinton.

Certainly, this is a feeble endorsement.

For all his charisma and his eloquence, the rookie senator sorely lacks seasoning: Regarding national security, his worldview is beyond naive; America must defend itself against those sworn to destroy the nation.

His all-things-to-all-people approach to complicated domestic issues also arouses scant confidence. "Change!" for the sake of change does not a credible campaign platform make. But he remains a highly intelligent man, with a strong record as a conciliator.

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Why shouldn't they support Obama. Both Love Reagan. Read why Obama said that people voted for Reagan.

"I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing."

The excesses and growth of the government were what the Democrats did. It was the Great Society, The Environmental Movement, Medicare, Civil Rights, Progressive taxation, Government Regulation of Corporations and Gay Rights. Calling them excesses is Republican language. Most Democrats didn't think they went far enough. And the "clarity" was against the honest soul searching that Americans had after Vietnam and Watergate of our place in the world.

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Is the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News the next to endorse Obama?

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Yak, yak, yak. I got one question for all of you. Where will you be canvassing in November? Don't all answer at once.

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Actually I take that back and apologize. Maxstar212 just said something elegantly. Funny how one thoughtful and insightful comment can redeem a thread.

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The New York Post who's front page on a day when there was a major earthquake around Armenia with thousands of death was a man arrested because his dog shat on the sidewalk.

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MOYNIHAHN'S WIFE BACKS OBAMA


"Elizabeth B. Moynihan, the widow of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the New York senator who, from a hayfield on his upstate farm, helped shepherd Hillary Rodham Clinton into his Senate seat, has endorsed Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination.

“It is a rare gift to be able to inspire people to share a vision that requires commitment and dedication,” she wrote in the e-mail message, to David Axelrod, a senior adviser to Mr. Obama.

“The hope that John Kennedy characterized for Americans spread across the world, then faded with his death,” Mrs. Moynihan wrote. “I believe Obama, like Kennedy, has the gift to transcend obstacles and to inspire Americans to bring out the best in themselves. I firmly believe the election of Barack Obama would help restore hope and America’s image in the world.”"

Alma Rangel, Elizabeth Moynihan, Dick Cody...Who'll defect to Obama next? Who cares about the NY Post, I'm sure Rupert Murdoch is still funding Hillary.

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Thank you Elizabeth Moynihan!

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