seems to me that, yes, he's subtly suggesting that Hillary hasn't sent this message and is raising the question of whether she will

I can't imagine why saying that character attacks are 'the fun part' would encourage this kind of stuff.

I have no big issue with Obama experimenting with drugs but I think its careless to tell that to bunch of teenagers. Teenagers are stupid and they may think well its OK to experiment with drugs. After all look at Obama, it worked out fine for him. He is running for president. Experimenting with drugs is dangerous and studies have shown that some individuals are prone to become addicted even with one exposure.

If Hillary would go tell teenagers that she experimented with becoming a lesbian, the media will crucify her. Even though drug experimentation is far more dangerous than experimenting with a lesbian lifestyle.

First off, teenagers aren't going to experiment with drugs because a politician admits he once did. Do teenagers get drunk because Bush admits he used to? Teens' influences are first their friends, second their entertainers, third their families, fourth their churches/clubs/organizations ... and politicians are hardly on the list.

Second, Obama describes drugs as something not worth doing, so it's hardly encouraging anyone anyway.

Third, "studies have shown" that many studies are bullshit, done in order to get grants from promoters of drug-scare propaganda rather than to really do science. Most scientists, in fact, use some drugs in their youth, and many find drugs help open their minds to the mysteries which, as scientists, they explore - as anyone who has hung with the science students and faculty at any major university will know.

oops. Obama just lost points with me on the quality of his judgment and his honesty. Why in the world would he say he believes Hillary Clinton? We know he doesnt and shouldn't. A more honest statement would have been, "Hillary's sincerity will be demonstrated in her future actions and those of her campaign."

Yes, anyone who has ever used drugs should be banned from teaching or any other job.

These Anonymous posts trying to convince us of the horrors of drug use are pretty ridiculous.

I can't believe Camp Hillary is going to get away with it.

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Yeah, her word is worth about as much as the king's word, zippo. Very funny. Yeah, the clinton II people totally have not been playing up the drug issue on this site, naaah. They haven't been playing the race card either. I can't wait to see her get trounced in the primaries. The funny thing is that she is doing it to herself. Poetic justice.

It would be nice if Obama asked his many supporters to not flood the blogosphere with attacks on Hillary (like the many posted above) that have nothing to do with policy. I am sick of reading posts that call her a bitch or a lesbian. It is pretty obvious that Obama (or someone on his staff) is coordinating this flood of "hate" posts.

I am sick of reading posts that call her a bitch or a lesbian.

I fully agree!

Why I cheered when, having been asked by Ali G whether Hillary "drank from the fairy cup", Marlon Fitzwater walked off the set

She thought she could skate because she's a woman and because Dems are nostalgic for the Clinton years. Now she's in trouble and the irony is that the first woman to run for the nomination could well lose to the first African American..She reminds people she's been VETTED and attacked for 16 years, just reminds folks of her baggage

Howard Fineman, Newsweek - paraphrase Olbermann

The bottomline is that it would likely be impossible to prove Clinton is coordinating these attacks, so it makes no sense for Obama to accuse her of doing so.

But he can note what leadership within a campaign is supposed to look like, and then let other people draw their conclusions as they see fit.

Anonymous wrote on December 14, 2007 5:52 PM:
oops. Obama just lost points with me on the quality of his judgment and his honesty. Why in the world would he say he believes Hillary Clinton? We know he doesnt and shouldn't. A more honest statement would have been, "Hillary's sincerity will be demonstrated in her future actions and those of her campaign."

WRONG!

You must make the world see the hypoccisy while at the same time exempifying the ideals that she espouses.

THAT is how you rise ABOVE it. By making others capitulate to the very ideals that America professes to be.

You have to make the world see how the person deviates fron those ideals and not wallow in the nuck and mire of their deviance from those ideals.

That is how you CONTRAST the difference.

Keith wrote on December 14, 2007 5:25 PM:
You know what would be a great move (at least in my opinion) if Obama gave a speech about the politics of fear--using the Clinton campaign's tactics as a launching point. It would keep the media story going during the holiday and would really solidify his message.

YES!!
Obama has to let the world see her hypocrisy juxtaposed with the ideals of what America is.

Another Anonymous said: "That is how you CONTRAST the difference."

I have read you post 10 times. Sorry, no idea what you are trying to say.

If Obama is taking Hillary "at her word" he must be on crack...

If Hillary is so much more experienced and capable of results than Obama then why does she seem to lose almost of these sparring events? Why can't she draw on her vaunted experience and keep that huge lead? Why can't she use her vast capacity to be effective and finish off her opponenents?

I went to Obama because he is the obvious choice to be an agent of change. I'm sticking with Obama with enthusiasm because he's showing that he's also the much more likely to be dependable and effective.

Anonymous said: "His ego and greed make him want to prove he can turn Eliza Dolittle into President of the United States."

Too funny. I can't stop laughing.

"My First Lady" starring Bill Clinton as Professor Higgins, and Hillary Clinton as Eliza DoneLittle.

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Obama said, "but the one thing I will say is I told my staff that if I catch you guys doing any kind of stuff like this you're fired. Period."

Let's see if Obama is a man of his word and fires John Millin, his Wyoming superdelegate who said just days ago:

"Every Democratic candidate in Wyoming will be painted with that same liberal, big-government brush. We will also be the target of the locker room jokes that rightfully belong to Bill Clinton."

I doubt Obama will walk the walk here anymore than he did with "Punjab-Gate" or "McClurkin-Gate" or "Geffen-Gate".

And I seriously doubt that the media will hold him any more accountable than what he holds himself. After all, his last name isn't Clinton.

OOOPS...LA Times Today

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-clinton15dec15,0,2904401.story?coll=la-home-center

I doubt Obama will walk the walk here anymore than he did with "Punjab-Gate" or "McClurkin-Gate" or "Geffen-Gate".

And I seriously doubt that the media will hold him any more accountable than what he holds himself. After all, his last name isn't Clinton.

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that person from Wyoming has no official connection to the Obama campaign, he is simply a public supporter. he is certainly not the campaign's state co-chair. but hey, whatever furthers your point, despite its factual accuracy.

Let's see if Obama is a man of his word and fires John Millin, his Wyoming superdelegate...

How does one "fire" a superdelegate? It is not as if the fellow works for the Obama campaign. The democratic party, not Obama, made him a superdelegate, so Obama has no power to rescind his delegate status. Meanwhile, the fellow opted to support Obama of his own free will. It is not as if Obama possessed some sort of incentive to compel the man to vote Obama, so once again it is hard to see how Obama might go about making the fellow agree not to vote for Obama. Perhaps JoeCHI needs to do a little background reading to find out what a superdelegate is and how they differ from campaign staff?