I'm just stunned by the question. she really sucks.

If you remember this was another beck/rush/hannity smear move on Biden earlier in the season. They played this up and made this into a issue from nothing.

Obama is the man

a poet

rather then an engineer

Biden is an easy target and the moderator was just trying to draw blood (from a stone). Biden is lower tier anyway. I think he's hanging in for a cabinet seat.

All of these "debates" have sucked.

I agree, Michael A, and I think most everyone does. But I did think that the NPR debate a week or two ago (totally ignored here at TPM) was a notch above the rest. They limited the debate to three topics and that allowed for a more in depth discussion than trying to cover every topic imaginable. They also had no studio audience so there was no time wasted with applause and laughter and heckling. There were no set time limits for answers. And I thought the moderators and questions were better than in the other debates. I'm still baffled by the blackout of that debate on a web site called "Election Central."

all I can say is I am leaning towards Edwards.

I didn't get to see - did anyone ask about restoring the Constitution?

I didn't think so.

I didn't get to see - did anyone ask about restoring the Constitution?

How many debates in a row is that?

yes biden gets himself in trouble for the things he says, but you can tell he's honest when he tries to explain what he really meant, and unlike the current administration, has never been too arrogant to apologize for his mistakes. That to me shows true character and integrity. At least the mistakes he makes are not of things that really matter like policy-making, votes, etc. Americans say they want honest straight-talkers, and if that is true, we should elect Biden. This woman's question was neither insightful nor useful to the voters in Iowa and the rest of the country. In fact, it wasn't even well-phrased...What I want to know is WHY is she the editor of the Des Moines Register?

Kefa,

I've been reading your posts all over TPMEC for several days now and your consistent use of Obama's middle initial (H. for Hussein) strikes me clearly as code. A bigoted one. Which makes your defense of Sen. Biden here as a good, non-racist man here completely disingenuous and hippocritical. So, are you a bigot, or are you just that desperate for Billary to win that you're willing to stoop to republican levels and use the politics of smear and fear?

I'm sorry, if Joe Biden were working in your office saying this kind of crap, he'd be a social pariah, and rightly so.

All you 'very serious people' might think this is a waste of time, but he's running for president, not chief technocrat. The kind of person this guy is matters. And repeated, sloppy, loose-lipped asides like these say something about the kind of man Joe Biden is.

Obama was a day late and a dollar short. The time for him to have defended Joe Biden was when he first made the remark. But he didn’t. The media and Sharpton and Jackson made a federal case out of an offhanded remark that Obama was mainstream, good looking, clean and articulate. I assumed that Biden meant cleancut or clean meaning honest as opposed to dirty meaning dishonest. The media twisted it around and made a federal case out of it. It hurt Joe dearly, killed his campaign before it got started, he had to regroup and start over. No I don’t think it was touching, it was self serving.

Like It Is,

At the time, although Obama stated he believed it was an historically inaccurate statement to say he was the first articulate African American candidate, he accepted Biden's apology and said he didn't take it personally. Incidentally, Jesse Jackson also spoke to Biden and then said he believed it was a gaffe and not a statement of Biden's ideology.