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Bill Clinton: The Press Ignores Hillary's Experience

While campaigning on Hillary's behalf in New Hampshire, Bill Clinton offered his take on the press coverage surrounding the primaries: He doesn't like it. Bill's view is that the press spends too much time on the horse-race element, and completely glosses over Hillary's superior record and experience.

"One percent of the press coverage was devoted to their record in public life. No wonder people think experience is irrelevant," Bill said, in an obvious knock against Barack Obama. "A lot of the people covering the race think it is."

"Sixty-seven percent of the coverage is pure politics. That stuff has a half life of about 15 seconds," he added. "It won't matter tomorrow. It is very vulnerable to being slanted and rude. And it won't affect your life."


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Well, why doesn't WJC talk about her experience instead of whining about how the media doesn't talk about it?

I've never seen a couple that likes to play the victim card so frequently.

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And her Strenght too, Bill! Don't forget to mention her Strength.

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Hillary should start trying to explain how her experience informs her judgment if she wants people to value it more. Unfortunately, she doesn't even have good judgment in hindsights, standing behind her blank check authorization position even in retrospect.

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Make sure you make it clear that she was deeply involved in all of the good stuff but the bad stuff was your fault.

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He's right, unfortunately.

Hillary got crucified on answer on driver's licenses for Illegal immigrants.

Obama LITERALLY gave the same answer she did the following debate and there was little said about that.

The fact that 2000 was bascially decided because Gore sighed a few times.

But hey, it's politics right?

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Way toooo funnny. The clinton spin machine in action. Got one for you willie, if you want the press to talk about her experience, release your white house records. Oh, that won't happen will it. I get it, you just want the press to keep repeating that she has all this non-existent experience and any one who doesn't believe it is a "hillary-hater." I get it.

Let's move on to the future. I don't want to relive the 90's clinton drama.

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I voted for Bill twice but I am tired of him already.

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Translation:

"You know all that mud we have been slinging recently, which has blown back in our faces?

You good folks in the press wouldn't mind giving us a do-over, would you? Can we just pretend that we stuck with talking about Hillary's experience and never did anything of that?

Thanks, boys!"

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The press unfair to the Clintons?

In other news: water is still wet.

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It seems to me that if we started seeing clips of what the candidates actually say about the issues that really concern Americans instead of clips of the sniping maybe we would all be able to make better informed decisions about who we want to vote for.

Just a thought.

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24 years - child, school, education
28 years - middle class professional
8 years - US Senator

The end.

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lol, well played, NCSteve.

Pres. Clinton, why don't you elaborate on what experience it is you wish the media would discuss more?

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It's starting to seem like he doesn't want Hillary to be president.

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Your coverage of the election trivia plays right into what President Clinton is talking about.

I am sure he had a lot more important things to say about policy and the future, but this is the sound bite we get? OK, so they are all pretty close on all the policies, who is best able to govern? How would an Obama cabinet differ from the others?

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The press may have been ignoring Mrs. Bill's experience but I haven't


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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNHHHH!

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The stench of desperation is palpable

Dollars to donuts Mark Penn's internal poll numbers have induced panic in Camp CLinton

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"For 16 years, ever since the Hiss case, you've had a lot of—a lot of fun—that you've had an opportunity to attack me and I think I've given as good as I've taken.....But as I leave you I want you to know—just think how much you're going to be missing. You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference."

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He's 100% right.
All we hear about is whether or not Hillary's campaign is doomed because:
a) she has boobies
b) she likes to clap her hands
c) can't forgt about the pantsuits
d) when she laughs, she cackles
e) right wing extremists hate her

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" Bill said, in an obvious knock against Barack Obama"

Who wrote this trash? When did Anne Kornblut start ghost writing here?

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See, this just makes me think of a problem. If this lady can't even accurately read her husband, and he can pull the wool over her eyes - and had - well, then how are we supposed to think she has good judgment, accurate perception, and so on?

For some reason this incident brings that home to me.

If a lady can be bamboozled in her own house, or a man for that matter... well, then...

Sorry, but that's my take.

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By the way, Biden and Richardson should thank the former President for his implied endorsement.

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I agree with you completely, Mark. I voted for President Clinton twice and was happy to do so, but I am also now suffering Clinton fatigue. And to think, we have how many more months of this to suffer through??

Why is Hillary so low key when it comes to her experience in the Senate? She seems to favor crowing about all of her experience she gained while First Lady while playing down her 1 1/2 terms as a US Senator. Maybe this is not quite the case, but it sure seems she is beating that First Lady horse into the ground, as if that were more important than representing the the people of the State of New York.

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and I guess the press weren't unfair when they gave her lone access on 5 networks during Sunday talk shows.

If you want unfair, Bill, perhaps you should be whining about the Edwards' campaign coverage.

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Come on, folks. Let's at least grant Bill's claim that there's too much "horse race" coverage. We should want, and agitate for, serious discussion of substantive issues, and complete analysis of each candidate's history.

Constantly focusing on who's up or down by how many percent in the latest poll only encourages superficial herd mentality.

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Kim,

Absolutely.

I'm just amused at the messenger in this case being part of Clinton's campaign, since that is 180 degrees away from the sort of press coverage they have been encouraging.

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He is 100% right. Any number of people, Matthews, Scarborough for example, devote huge amounts of air to baseless smears. It's all over the dial. Whether you like her(as a candidate)or not, anybody paying attention should see that she's being unfairly, constantly, smeared, even by "liberals". It's like a friggin' sport.

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Helter wrote on December 4, 2007 3:46 PM:
It's starting to seem like he doesn't want Hillary to be president..........................................I agree! It has occurred to me several times, lately. Isn't it eerie?---------------1.There was no complaint about the horserace reporting when it was all "Hillary leads by 30, she is inevitable"......................................2.Part of the problem with discussing hillary's experience is lack of access to the records of her experience. Whose fault is that?-...............................3. One big issue should be---what kind of people will you surround yourself with in the oval office. Bad Advisers are people who can destroy a president---if Hillary does not fire Penn and somje of these other jerks around her, it will be another nail in her coffin of distrust....................5.Bill needs to be patient---Blitzer will provide a firewall in the last debate before super Tuesday.

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No dice, Kim. They were absolutely thrilled with the nonstop horse race coverage back when they were skating the edge of 50%, dissing the other campaigns by refusing to enage with them substantively on the issues and sending out subtle "she's inevitable, so get on board for the big win or we'll put you on the 'Dead to Me' list" threats to every Democratic politician down to the municipal dog catcher level. For month after month, she avoided taking any stand whatsoever on most issues with even a whiff of controversy about them. Now, suddenly, now that her numbers are tanking and she's clearly lost all momentum, they want to go all civic-minded, complain about the horse race coverage and tut tut about the supposed lack of substantive coverage of the issues of most concern to Hill . . . er, he means, the voters?

Right.

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President Clinton has lost all credibility on the subject of objective press coverage. He recently told a bald faced, revisionist, lie to an Iowa audience. He claimed that he was always against the Iraq Invasion.

Nothing more absurd than a blatant liar demanding objective truth from others.

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Take my wife........please!

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But I've got to say that I thank God I live in a country where I can still fire off a disrespectful comment at a former President and not worry (much) about storm troopers kicking down my door in the dead of night and dragging me off for a dose of night and fog.

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All those thinking that if we just feed the press and the attack machine the Clintons, then all this nightmare will go away, I got news for you: it'll just make them thirstier for blood. Obama Osama anybody? Breck girl? They go for the strongest one. You snipe at the lead animal.

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I liked it a lot better when the spouses of the contenders in the horse race kept their mouths shut. If Hillary can't tell him to shut up and sit in the corner for a few months or so to give us a break, what else is she too spineless to do?

Yeah, I voted for him twice --

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Hillary's Campaign supposedly is the best organized among ALL the DEM Candidates. If thats the case...how can these people continue to make mistake after mistake?...Even Bill is making Hillary's chances slimmer with each word he utters..And Mark Penn?...He's terrible!!..Where did Hillary find this guy?..

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Hillary/Laura '08!
Experience We Can Believe In

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Hilarious! I didn't hear Bill complaining about all the "horse race" coverage when Her Royal Highness was consistently leading the pack. He's pissed because Democrats aren't simply rolling over and begging for the Clintons.

It's good, though, that he's reminded us that it's all the media's fault. Bad media!!! You can't say anything good about Iraq and now you can't say anything good about Hillary!!! Bad, BAD Media!!!

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Something weird is going on with the Clintons right now...have lost their freakin' minds? How in the world does Bill whining like this help Hillary? Seriously...how does it help her in Iowa, NH and SC? (He should have known it would top Drudge.) It makes her look like she's a little girl and poppa Bill has to come out and walk her to school and complain for her. Hillary's ONE accomplishment in my mind is she's has been through political and personal hell and back. So if there's anyone who does NOT need someone whining for her it's her. It just reminds the undecideds and the middle (ie, swing voters) of all the bad things they remember about the Clintons. And when the undecideds and the middle are tired of you and don't vote for you, you lose elections. Ask Al Gore and John Kerry about that concept. While I can't stand the idea of a ultra-Christian like Huckabee in the White House, it's starting to become clear to me how he'd actually be able to beat Hillary.

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Hilarious! I didn't hear Bill complaining about all the "horse race" coverage when Her Royal Highness was consistently leading the pack.

No! Just like Iraq, he was against the horserace coverage all along!

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Bill is right!
We love you Bill!

....that always gets 'em. he he
But he is right. I am amazed how horrible the coverage is. I used to watch HardD*ck with Piss Matthews but he makes me sick now.

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It's better for Hillary if the stories focus on the horse race instead of her record. Her record is atrocious. Her votes in the Senate have been terrible--consistently for war and against people. In favor of big money interests. If the press focus is on her record, then she's screwed. Better for her to keep the focus on the horse race. Indeed, her only positive is the impression of inevitability. That aura of inevitability relies on the press focusing on the horse race. So, Bill's protestations are another part of a horse's anatomy.

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“Clinton was elected to the Senate in 2000, her first experience of public office. Obama was an Illinois state senator for seven years before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004.” Do the math. In terms of experience in elective office, Obama has more. Obama 08!

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Is the office of President of United States of America were about JOB EXPERIENCE, Joe Biden would be our next leader.

Thank the deity of your choice that it is about having one of two last names . . . That's real experience.

Between the guys picking on the girl thing and this lackluster performance, I think William Jefferson Clinton's heart is not fully in this OR the magic has died.

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So easy to take a swipe at the Clintons: no need to be left or right. Just an expert at cheapshots. Barack and John will know what it will be like in the main campaign if they win. Then we will see how all those who take cheap shots at the Clintons will cope. We Democrats will always be outmanoeuvred by the Republicans because we think our priniples and purity are more important than pragmatism. Those guys have none so they got Bush. We were busy laughing at our Gore: remember. And we sniggered at Kerry. We did that.

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bp wrote on December 4, 2007 5:47 PM:
So easy to take a swipe at the Clintons: no need to be left or right. Just an expert at cheapshots. Barack and John will know what it will be like in the main campaign if they win. Then we will see how all those who take cheap shots at the Clintons will cope. We Democrats will always be outmanoeuvred by the Republicans because we think our priniples and purity are more important than pragmatism. Those guys have none so they got Bush. We were busy laughing at our Gore: remember. And we sniggered at Kerry. We did that.

Yes, and now we are getting ready to do it again to Hillary. Can you only imagine how much better this country and the world would be if Gore had won!

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Oh, I would be delighted if the media would cover Hillary's record. In the Senate, some 78% of her so called successfully sponsored legislation was fluff like renaming post offices or resolutions to honor individuals. Real meaty 'leadership' stuff, that.

'Course the media would have to dig through all the carefully hyped spin covering up that bare bones reality.

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When will the coverage change from plattitudes about hope and change and focus on the candidates' actual policy?

I can't see a scenario where Hillary doesn't come out on top in that situation. Then again, that's not what the media wants. The horse race has us all on blogs, watching the news, and possibly (again) nominating the wrong person who will be most vulnerable to Republican attacks.

If Obama wins, I will know that the Democratic Party isn't for me. I guess I'll be one of those much-sought-after Independents. I hope it will be different.

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Of course, they ignore her experience, b/c she's giving them too much ammo to use against her. Why report on what she's done, when she obviously doesn't want to answer those questions? The truth is that she doesn't have as much experience as Obama(do the research, I know other bloggers have shared some of it.) She's turning it into a race about Kindergarten essays and her main rivals' naiveness. She's only doing it to herself.

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Hey, did you see the latest round of state polls? NH - IA - SC - NV - and all the rest... Senator Clinton is ahead in ALL of them!

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A new SurveyUSA poll in Ohio shows Hillary Clinton to be a stronger Democratic nominee than Barack Obama in this key swing state, and John McCain to be the best Republican nominee. Meanwhile, Mike Huckabee is enjoying his own boost in popularity:

Clinton (D) 48%, Giuliani (R) 44%
Clinton (D) 51%, Romney (R) 41%
Clinton (D) 47%, Huckabee (R) 45%
McCain (R) 51%, Clinton (D) 43%
Giuliani (R) 46%, Obama (D) 43%
Obama (D) 45%, Romney (R) 42%
Huckabee (R) 44%, Obama (D) 41%
McCain (R) 51%, Obama (D) 40%

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Sorry if thi is a repeat.

A new SurveyUSA poll in Ohio shows Hillary Clinton to be a stronger Democratic nominee than Barack Obama in this key swing state, and John McCain to be the best Republican nominee. Meanwhile, Mike Huckabee is enjoying his own boost in popularity:

Clinton (D) 48%, Giuliani (R) 44%
Clinton (D) 51%, Romney (R) 41%
Clinton (D) 47%, Huckabee (R) 45%
McCain (R) 51%, Clinton (D) 43%
Giuliani (R) 46%, Obama (D) 43%
Obama (D) 45%, Romney (R) 42%
Huckabee (R) 44%, Obama (D) 41%
McCain (R) 51%, Obama (D) 40%

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ihatebeets said "Why is Hillary so low key when it comes to her experience in the Senate?"

Hillary has been a do nothing Senator in a DO NOTHING Congress. Hillary Lovers, name one major piece of legislation Hillary has authored, introduced and championed to passage. THERE IS NONE!!!!
She has "co-sponsored" showboat dead-end legislation. That's what politicians do to look busy and fill their websites and newsletters.

Hillary's major accomplishment in Congress and life has been to give George W. Bush the authority to invade Iraq, and then to attack Iran. She believe his LIES twice, even when many Senate colleagues read the intelligence and knew better.

Hillary's record is no more or no less than any other wife of a powerful man. Everything she has done has come by way of Bill Clinton... period.

So, Bill, by all means challenge the press to give her record more coverage.
Are you campaigning for her or against her?

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Memo to Bill:
The country does not like Hillary
Nothing you can do about it

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Hey Hillary, there is a difference in being "tough" and being "mean." Learn the difference.

The Hillary Doll comes with
FIVE settigs:

Spin,
Cackle
Play Victim
Lie
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK

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Bill to bm: "I don't like her either, but if I can get her elected president, she'll be off my damn back."

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bm: the country does not like Hillary. The country or the usual wingnuts and moonbats? This woman went and fought two elections in New York and won handily. Rudy went prostrate with Prostrate. Rick Lazio could not hack it. She was elected twice. So don't give me this country stuff. The Naderites are no better than the wingnuts. Too full of themselves and their self righteousness. Which is why Bush got the 2000 election. You folks have learned nothing anD forgotten nothing. And the Republicans will beat you at your own game.

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Bill Clinton is exactly right regarding what he is saying. Bill Clinton is exactly wrong for say it. That is a decision for the voters to sort out.

The voters seem to be discombobulated right now. When you read the polls on the issues that matter and the right direction, wrong direction question there is an overwhelmning view that this is a change election. When you look at the horse race polls it shows a virtual dead heat. This leaves about 15% of the people wanting change then turning around and saying they will vote Republican. It makes no sense.

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Just released yesterday.
More people who don't like Hillary he he

The poll shows Clinton's advantages in the early contests stretch beyond the top issues. The New York senator has amassed strong support among crucial groups including female, older, less-educated and lower-income Democrats _ significant because women and older voters in particular have dominated these primaries and caucuses in the past. In Iowa though, she has only a modest lead over Obama among women.

"She knows how to deal with the opposition, she can get national health care passed and stop the war in Iraq," said Steven Arcone, 63, a geophysicist and Clinton supporter from West Lebanon, N.H.

The AP-Pew poll shows:

_Clinton essentially tied with Obama in Iowa, 31 percent to 26 percent, with Edwards at 19 percent and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson at 10 percent.

_In New Hampshire Clinton 38 percent, Obama 19 percent, Edwards 15 percent, Richardson 10 percent. The primary is Jan. 8.

_In South Carolina Clinton 45 percent, Obama 31 percent, Edwards 10 percent. Democrats vote Jan. 26.

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bp said "This woman went and fought two elections in New York and won handily."

Fought? She had no real opposition in either election and still had to spend huge sums of her corporate donations to win. Bill's machine and influence peddling gave Hillary a seat in the Senate.

A life long Democrat, I have never seen a candidate that so many people absolutely oppose. No one I know wants Hillary for president, they just want the Clintons to BOTH go away. Enough!

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bp
Please name any other candidate with such a high unfavorable rating.
She will be an electoral disaster for the Democratic party.
For the good of the country, she must be stopped in the primaries.

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If there's one thing I hate, it's those "inexperienced" politicians from Illinois who serve for 8 years in the Illinois Legislature and a couple years in the US Congress and then have the gall to run for President at a time when the country is facing huge problems. That Abraham Lincoln guy sure was a terrible President, huh?

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Dont be misled by her matchup polls. HRC is a disaster looking for a place to happen. 08 is not the cakewalk that many think for the dems. Hillary will make it uphill for the blue. She polls well because of name recognition, but will get blasted once the real campaign starts. The worst of all worlds, she is perceived by casual moderates as extremely liberal, but by left leaning and progressives as too conservative. She is already in bed with the enemies of freedom(Murdoch, big pharma, big insurance, etc..).
And I wouldn't minimize "Clinton fatigue". 28 consecutive years of Bush/Clinton? There is NO combination of that formula that works for me.
I respect her as a policy wonk. But she has no charisma, has shown no ability to inspire, and will start(if elected) with crippling handicaps. There will no co-operation on any policy possible by goopers w/her at helm.
Lastly, the one thing I conceded was an asset for her was Bill. But after watching him, I changed my mind on that too. Enough. I'm sick of his triangulating, grab assing, whigger act. Time for a change.

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Just a casual reminder:

Gore won New York by 25 points in 2000. Clinton beat Lazio by 11.

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Now hang on... who on Earth doesn't know that Hillary is the candidate claiming the most experience? That experience is one of her campaign themes hasn't exactly been hidden from the American people. What's the gripe here?

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Not one comment of value here, possibly because the article isn't of much value. TPM, please figure out when you're digging so hard for muck that you've hit the clay.

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OK, there are a couple comments of value. Few and far between. And talk about providing a forum that looks like it belongs on Red State. Trolls: you arent hiding it very well.

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Dan wrote: OK, there are a couple comments of value. Few and far between. And talk about providing a forum that looks like it belongs on Red State. Trolls: you arent hiding it very well.
Yes, the Hillary haters unfortunately throw a little party amongst themselves at the comments section here at TPM every now and then. But it’s kind of informative too, to study the sewer system where the Rethugs store their arguments between uses.
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Enough with him already--he needs to go play with the Bushes-you know the ones that think he is like "another son"! Either that or continue to bury his wife with all his comments.I sense a little Fruedian stuff here since it is hardly a secret they barely live together.But can they ever play the victims! Only problem is I do not feel sorry for them-she especially is so power hungry it makes me cringe.

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Republicans "like" Obama because they want to run against him.
For them, what could be better than running against,
"an unqualified, untested black Muslim named Hussein?"


BTW, what committees is Obama on, anyone know?

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DemAC, continuing to call anyone who questions Hillary's experience, qualifications and honesty, a "Hillary hater" just negates everthing else you say. Everyone knows Hillary and her mean machine are in a panic and all they know how to do is attack an enemy. It is very telling that Hillary and her supporters are defining 55 percent of the Democratic party and over 60 percent of the nation as their ENEMIES.

Hillary's growing desperation and campaign disarray is an ugly thing.

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Democrats may be understanding what the GOP has known all along - Hillary can win the Democratic nomination but can't win the general election. While her resume improves the country continues to suffer from a lack of direction and leadership necessary to survive the current trend of Presidencies.

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Wil Burns,

People have been pushing the "black Muslim" angle against Obama since last December, and it hasn't worked. Even among Republicans, in fact--Obama has emerged as the most popular Democratic candidate among Republicans, despite these attacks.

That in general is the problem the current Republican power structure faces: they have already lost a lot of people who have stopped identifying as Republicans, and polls show that even among the remaining Republicans there is a lot of discontent and a good number are considering voting for a Democrat. Accordingly, the only real hope for the current Republican power structure is to nominate someone who can pull back those disaffected Republicans and former Republicans, or get lucky and have the Democrats nominate someone who will drive those people back.

Incidentally, all the Senators have offical senate.gov websites that, among other things, specify their committee assignments. Here are Obama's:

http://obama.senate.gov/committees/

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Somehow, I cannot find it in my heart to feel sorry for Hillary. First the big bad boys picked on her, now it's Bill saying the reporters are somehow picking on her. Reminds me of Laura Bush when she is trotted out and complains the media is not reporting anything good about her husband.

Really, Bill ought to just stop interfering. I think he just cannot deal with the fact that he is not running, not being pursued by the media,not being consulted on war and other things and he wants the spotlight, it seems. Like it was back then. I don't think using him and his popularity works well for her campaign.

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So, they think that Obama or Edwards' experiences are being played up? They all get the same idiotic substance-less treatment.

The Clintons probably are guilty of suppressing coverage of Obama's substance, since on every one of his major speech days, they leak something to Drudge and drown out Obama's substantive and substantively different proposals from getting even a cursory consideration...

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Anonymous wrote at 5:18 AM: Everyone knows Hillary and her mean machine are in a panic and all they know how to do is attack an enemy. It is very telling that Hillary and her supporters are defining 55 percent of the Democratic party and over 60 percent of the nation as their ENEMIES.
A fine specimen of Hillary hating rhetoric – straight out of the Rethug playbook.
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Just an honest question here: what exactly is Hillary's experience? What counts? Because when she talks about it, she mostly seems to focus on things that happened when Bill was in the WH, as opposed to her Senate record.

She's had a few more years in the Senate than Obama, but has she really sponsored more meaningful legislation? I don't think she has, but I'd like to hear Clinton supporters make the argument. From my standpoint, it's just taken as a given she has more "experience".

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Hey Bill....You want us to talk about Hillary's experiance?
Ok here goes...
She Marry's you,
Moves to the 48th ranked state on education, where you are elected Atty Gen, the Gov.
She looks the other way while you screw around, and she sits on the board at wallmart.
You get elected President.
She looks the other way while you screw around.
You lie to the Grand Jury.
You get impeached, we feel sorry for you and Hillary.
You get off,(not just the impeachment).
Hillary looks the other way, we feel sorry for her.
Hillary moves to NY.
we feel sorry for her, elect her to the senate.
Hillary votes to send 4000 American men and women to their deaths.
Hillary runs for President, get's trounced in Iowa.
We feel sorry for her when she "cries".
Hillary wins NH by 2 points.

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Bill Clinton's legacy is plummeting. The best scenario to save it would be for Hillary to lose the nomination to Obama and Bill deliver a great speech for him at the convention; moving gracefully back into the role of elder statesman.

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Hillary's "experience" is a load of bullshit. Neither Hillary or Barack have that much experience and neither did Bill when he was elected president. It's a non-issue for anyone who understands what the job of president entails. A president is surrounded by aides and advisers whose experience is FAR more important than the president's. If, God forbid, there was a natural disaster or a terrorist attack on day one, EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE IN THE RACE would be consulting with the same departments and gathering the same information. It's what they would do with that information that's important. Judgment is what matters.

Bill's full of crap, and he knows it.

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