Rudy Dissembles Furiously About Biden
For some time now we've been trying to push the idea that Rudy G. has, well, issues when it comes to telling the truth. And along comes another perfect example of this:
We're not sure what to make about this, really. It seems pretty clear cut. In the first interview, Rudy was asked explicitly about Joe Biden and foreign policy experience and he suggested very directly that Biden didn't have any, summarizing Biden's record thusly:
"It's one thing to speak about what you want or even pass laws about it. It's another thing to actually do it. Foreign policy experience to me means being an ambassador, being in the state department."
Unless I'm missing something, Rudy explicitly used the words "foreign policy experience." But then Rudy was later confronted about his contention that Biden Senate Foreign Relations Committee chair Biden lacks said experience. And he responded that he hadn't attacked Biden this way at all. "I didn't mention foreign policy." Rudy said. Of course, Rudy did in fact "mention foreign policy."
Wolf Blitzer did fact-check Rudy here, but he also kind of laughed off Rudy's mendacity -- yet another reminder that many in the media elite still see Rudy as someone who hit the political jackpot on 9/11 but who is fundamentally unthreatening and is a kind of harmless buffoon.
We've got more for you on how the media is still failing to confront Rudy's chronic dishonesty here and here.
Late Update: Biden responds to Rudy:
“Today’s comments come from a guy -- Rudy Giuliani -- who said Dick Cheney, the architect of Bush’s failed policy in Iraq, was a great choice for vice president and who recommended the now discredited Bernie Kerik to be Secretary of Homeland Security. Once again, Rudy has demonstrated his complete lack of knowledge of U.S. foreign policy.”















I've got to say...I'm really starting to like Biden. A lot.
November 2, 2007 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Paula M. -- Think about credit card companies and bankruptcy "reform" and you should be able to suppress the emotion. Biden (D-MBNA AKA BoA), bought and paid for with the biggest campaign finance scandal going.
November 2, 2007 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find it very difficult to take RG seriously. In this current free-for-all atmosphere, goofballs like RG are taken seriously, and people with real ideas like Kucinich and Paul are not. It is meaningless. Gee, I remember saying that about George W. Bush: who would ever consider electing this phony cowboy to the presidency?
November 2, 2007 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Both Rudy and Hillary share the same qualities when it comes to being lightweights. Hillary pulls the gender card anytime things become 'equal' between her and the other candidates and Rudy pulls the 9/11 card anytime he opens his mouth. Both are flawed beyond being qualified to be president. And both have somehow convinced the media that they are leading the pack.
November 2, 2007 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the best response Biden and team can come up with? There's nothing quotable in it, nothing sound-bite-able, nothing that will stick in anybody's mind. It's not even directly on point.
Here they had a perfect opportunity for a huge media bonus, and they fumbled it.
November 2, 2007 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, I imagine that Charles Krauthammer will be calling Rudy mentally unstable in his next column.....right?
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November 2, 2007 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Urbino, you're right, Biden should have recycled the old joke that Giuliani's only foreign policy experience has been eating at the International House of Pancakes.
November 2, 2007 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anonymous,
Biden may be a whore the Banking Industry . . . BUT he is a really good dresser. Have you checked his suits and french cuffs . . . Always impecable. Thank you for reminding us of why Joe can afford such natty suits.
JimBob,
Golly, have you reviewed Paul's platform? Yes, he is anti-Iraq/Iran war . . . But can you get behind a guy who states that Social Security and Medicare NEED to be eliminated and that the only folk who should not have a right to see to their own physical welfare are pregent women? Except for his anti-abortion mindset, Paul is a hardcore recessivist/Libertarian who wants to wipe government off the face of the Earth (except for the wombs of women . . . There he wants a impeniterable firewall between reality and her rights).
November 2, 2007 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guilani is a joke..a very bad one at that. I agree with Biden he is the MOST unqualified candiate for president since the chimp in charge. And he's a blatant liar.
November 2, 2007 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Rudy wins the election, I really have to think more seriously about moving to Canada. After the hell of the past seven years, who would have thought that the United States of Avarice could elect someone even worse?
November 2, 2007 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
RLA -- Who knew you were a closet fashionista? Our own favorite bomb-throwing unreconstructed class warrior? It must be all that California sunlight going to your head (or maybe smoke inhalation):)
November 2, 2007 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy_is_a_monster_in_waiting.
November 2, 2007 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
The reason I think people should vote for the incestuous adulterer for preznit is his huge amount of experience in foreign policy. After all NYC has a Chinatown. And the stuttering fool is so polished. He looks good in pearls.
What else are you looking for in a preznit?
November 3, 2007 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy is just this seasons reality TV series... with luck his ratings will fall before the election and he'll be cancelled. Blitzer and the rest of the entertainment news media are just doing their due diligence in promoting the flash-in-the-pan hit of the season -- after all, that IS their job -- advertising other programs. Thats all Rudy is, just another spot on the dial for a while.
November 3, 2007 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
While some of what Biden says is good, his status as D-MBNA is very troubling to say the least. The Bankruptcy Bill was a horrible one for consumers. There is no usury law right now. Payday lenders run amok. There are no reasonable limits to bank fees and banks are allowed by national inattention to rape and pillage consumers.
I don't think we can afford Biden as POTUS.
November 3, 2007 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
ANYONE who take Kucinich and Paul seriously is a boob. These guys sound serious because they say things that no one else will say. Why will no one else say them? Oh, that's easy - most of the things that no one else will say are really really stupid, and they appeal to really really stupid people.
November 3, 2007 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy Giuliani knows as much about foreign policy as a pig knows about Sunday.
November 3, 2007 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I second Anonymous' advice to Paula M.
I too like Biden in many ways, but his support of the credit card industry, significantly housed in
Biden's state, Deleware, sickened me.
There seems to no longer exist in politics any concept of shame.
November 3, 2007 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is an idea for when the dollar bubble does pop; Understanding that money is actually a form of public utility, similar to public highways and not private property. How about making the banking system a communal function, like the court system and any profits would go into public uses.
When the pendulum gets pushed too far in one direction, it eventually swings that much harder in the other direction.
http://www.exterminatingangel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=203&Itemid=118
November 3, 2007 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy Dudy: America's Transvestite!
(Gowns furnished by The Company.)
November 3, 2007 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy is a moron for attacking the, uh, 7th ranked Democratic candidate? Eighth? Biden has single-digit support. And then he baldly lies about the guy. This is the GOP front-runner? Wow, are they in trouble.
November 3, 2007 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just because Ron Paul opposes the war in Iraq does not mean he is an acceptable candidate for president. For example, comments such as these have been attributed to him, which appeared in his newsletter, the Ron Paul Survival Report:
“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,”
“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,”
“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”
"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."
"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
Paul also claimed former President Bill Clinton not only fathered illegitimate children, but that he also used cocaine which "would explain certain mysteries" about the President's scratchy voice. "None of this is conclusive, of course, but it sure is interesting,” he said.
When challenged on those remarks he blamed them on an aide that supposedly wrote them for his newsletter over a period of years. Are we to assume that he hadn't read his own newsletter? His newsletter with his name on it?
It isn’t just Blacks that Paul has a problem with; it’s also Asians, homosexuals, Jews, women, fornication, gambling, and the stock market.
This is presidential material? No, thank you!
November 4, 2007 1:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
RG should be a joke, but is frightening instead. What really scares me is the extent to which our political "system" has decayed. We have an incompetant with 3 drunk-driving convictions now, and may be offered RG or a senile actor next, as the world spins towards war.
The Dems are better - but how much better? What mendacious calculation has led Schumer to stick with Mukasey? God only knows what's in Hillary's mind. And all of them, all of them, have to think about raising money all the time.
To the MSM political correspondents, it's the gig: raising money is the literal currency of political power.
Our country is in real trouble, and a clown like RG is just one spot of a fever rash.
November 4, 2007 5:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope the people of NYC are getting a good look at who they elected and for so many years. I dont see how such a fascist like Rudy can get elected in NYC. Guess the same way Romney was elected as the gov of Mass. I hope the dems will finally get out next year & vote or take advantage of the absentee option for a change. The repubs are by far a minority, but, they vote! If they win elections, it's because non-repub's let them!
November 4, 2007 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I imagine Joe Biden enjoys the attention.
November 4, 2007 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
RG is a joke, BIDEN is really growing on me! I like the Biden/Obama ticket.
November 4, 2007 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Per CJ (11-02-2007 @6:41 p.m.): "And both have somehow convinced the media that they are leading the pack." (Speaking of Rudy and Hillary)
It seems to me that the 'media', particularly that majority of the 'media' controlled by AIPAC Neocon warmongers, have convinced the 'pack' (the American electorate) that Hillary is as good as elected to the office of President of the U.S. of A.
There is the sneaking suspicion that those same media moguls decided long ago to 'anoint' Hillary (or B Obama) as the Dems candidate, because they think both have issues that make them un-electable.
As for Rudy, I doubt they (the media) think he has a real chance of becoming President....regardless of what 'pack' he is leading.
November 5, 2007 3:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Biden would have been a great alternative to Kerry in '04, but he was too chicken to run then. When it looked like any Dem nominee was going to be a shoo-in in '08, THEN he throws his hat in the ring.
I USED TO like Biden, but that's all over now. Give me Edwards/Dodd or Obama/Dodd -- now there's a ticket I can get behind.
November 5, 2007 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink