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Right-Wing Bloggers Launch Campaign -- With MoveOn! -- Against Fox News Over Debate Footage
This is interesting: A coalition of right-wing bloggers and MoveOn that helped force several networks to allow public use of their political debate footage last spring has just launched a similar campaign against Fox News.
Fox recently sent letters to all the GOP Presidential candidates "cease and desist" from using Fox footage in any way. In response, the right-wing bloggers and MoveOn are demanding that Fox rescind these cease and desist orders and allow public use of its debate footage.
In a press release just blasted out by MoveOn, RedState.com founder Eric Erickson, a prominent right-wing blogger, is quoted saying: "Already FOX is viewed as a partisan network by the Democrats, who will not use that forum for debates...Every other news organization has liberated their debate footage and FOX should either be no different or no longer have the privilege of airing debates."
The primary concern of the right-wing bloggers seems to be that if they can't use Fox debate footage on their sites, it hampers their ability to comment on the GOP primary and on politics in general. MoveOn, for its part, opposes Fox because its refusal to allow use of debate footage could "stifle debate."
One reason this campaign is interesting is that similar version of this alliance has had success before. After it launched a similar campaign last spring and gained considerable attention, CNN, ABC and NBC all agreed to allow use of its debate footage.
The new campaign could cause Fox considerable discomfort, since it isn't every day that the conservative network finds itself targeted by winger bloggers -- much less an alliance of wingers and MoveOn. It's also joined by a prominent Republican, former Republican FEC Chair Brad Smith.
"Whatever its legal obligations, FOX would perform a public service and enhance its reputation by making its debate footage available to the public at large," Smith said in the press release sent out by MoveOn.
Fox's cease-and-desist letters were sent to all the GOP candidates after we reported over at The Horse's Mouth that Fox had demanded John McCain yank all Fox footage from his site while not making the same demand of Mitt Romney or of Rudy Giuliani, who's a close friend of Fox chief Roger Ailes.
More info on the campaign here. It will be interesting to see how Fox responds to this.















Perhaps an alliance could also be formed, insisting that all candidates explain their understanding of the oath of office and their allegiance to the constitution, separation of powers, and all rights guaranteed us there.
Worth a try!
November 1, 2007 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. Especially Bill O'Liely.
November 1, 2007 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does that network have a preponderance of heavily made up cheesecakes reading the news ?
Is that the sort of woman that appeals to their viewers ?
I would like to see them get in a big fight over this issue. I mean a real hair-pulling, eye-gouging fight.
Oh Yeah.
November 1, 2007 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would be a major breakthrough if even just ONE mainstream media type would pose TheraP's question to any one of the candidates. Not gonna happen.
Can't even get a response from any of the candidates (except Dodd), concerning that issue; they don't seem to recall having taken an oath concerning protect and defend the Constitution.
November 1, 2007 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
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November 1, 2007 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do you think they call it 'Fox'
Signed
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November 1, 2007 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does Fox even have a case?
Surely using footage from a debate in your own commercials is fair use? Any candidate worth his salt would just continue to use the footage and let Fox try to sue.
November 1, 2007 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why should Fox News make their footage available; they're an entertainment operation not a news org...
November 1, 2007 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure George Soros is bankrolling the whole campaign
November 1, 2007 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is just a pointless waste of time, considering that any reasonable use of the debates would most likely be covered under fair use. Their time would be better spent trying to get real questions asked, but apparently neither side wants that.
November 1, 2007 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. Especially Bill O'Liely.
wow! think that up all by your widdle self?
November 1, 2007 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any of you moonbats want to point to any Big Three network or cable channel that has multile conservative AND liberal hosts (Greta, Geraldo, Colmes, Smith) as well as liberal commentators (Juan Williams, Mara Liasson, Bob Bickel, Sussan Estrich, Ellis Henican, Kirsten Powers, etc) as regulars???
Any of you want to explain why a Harvard Univ. study just concluded that Fox had more coverage of conservatives than the other news networks BUT did not slant their stories toward them, whilst the others had far more coverage of favorable coverage of liberals?
Any of you want to explain why Hillary should get a pass on tough questions, why Russert should be killed for asking them?
Nahhhh...a lot easier to maintain your Eternal Circle Jerk!
Don't get "any" on ya!
November 1, 2007 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSM hates and fears the blogs.
MSM hounded Clinton and let Bush slide
MSM trashed Gore - a great man - and let Cheney slide
Now - evrything's taped and live on the web at internet speed with informed liberal comentary that lying shills for the wealthy can't bloviate past.
Yes - the truth IS that powerful.
November 1, 2007 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Anna Keppa, your sleazy and nasty last comment proves nothing but how proud your parents must be of you!
Even right-wingers admit that Fox is simply a tool of Roger Ailes, former propagandist for neo-Fascist cabals.
November 1, 2007 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
mccoy and GKAM -- you guys are hilarious! You talk right past my fact-filled comments, and instead launch into
boilerplate librulspeek. "even right-wingers admit" ---- LOL!!!
Better go back and get your GED real quick --sign up for the freshman Debate Club while you're at it -- you might leagain some reasoning power.
So the MSM gives Bush a pass, eh? then explain why they assiduously report every stupid Harry Reid/Peolosi/Kennedy/Durbin/Levin comment about Bush "lies" and fascism and "trampling the Constitution. Why the New York Times reports military and intelligence secrets useful to our enemies and harmful to Bush and our soldiers.
And did you complain when Chris Matthews attacked the GOP candidates when HE "moderated" a debate?
Nope. You applauded like trained seals hoping for a fish.
You guys are one-way streets!
November 1, 2007 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I see the 'FOX' watermark on the video screen, I assume it's either a freakish comment made by one of their staff freaks or TPM pointing out the latest freakish error, etc. broadcast as fact to the mouthbreathers. Thus, I can't imagine another appropriate use of Fox footage.
But it's good that it gives our side a chance to show how magnanimous we are: Go ahead wingnut freaks, you should be able to show whatever you want.
Now the challenge will be to determine if the actors playing candidates are really the candidate, and if the audio signal is a dub.
I really don't have time for that, so I'd prefer if they did restrict their TV shows.
November 1, 2007 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Anna: That stuff works on Kerry, but Clinton will throw you in the Gulag!
November 1, 2007 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I to understand that some of you believe one corporate media over another?
This one leans too far left; that one's way right.
People, they ALL lie and omit truth.
Their purpose isn't to inform you. Let's not forget that corporations are loyal ONLY to profits and power, not people, not political parties, not nations.
Does anyone think that news organizations are bought and amalgamated because a board of directors and their shareholders are concerned about truth, honesty and fairness? They make business decisions, not moral ones. They will favour the cause that makes them wealthy.
I'm not saying to ignore them, but treat what they say as gossip, then get on the web and dig around for your own info to either verify or debunk what's been 'reported'.
This formula should be used especially in America where the 'military industrial complex' has become what Eisenhower warned about; and yes, the msm is a part of it.
Don't think the 'corporate government' is working in your interest. You can't be a top-tier politician or board chairman while being honest and moral; the two conflict.
That's just my opinion and I say it respectfully. No offense is intended. I care for the people of America; I can't say the same for its politicians and corporations, though.
November 1, 2007 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
We all agree fox is biased, But more damage is being done by msnbcand nbc, chris mathews and tim russet, they hate hillary and chris mathews looks like he is ready to explode talking about her. He constantly bad mouths her, i am not a hillary fan but he is making me one.
November 2, 2007 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Daniel, Mathews and Russert are entitled to their opinions of a candidate, as are you.
However, that they're giving you their opinion on a news channel is disconcerting. Even worse, is that someone's politics influences how they conduct themselves as a debate mediator. That role MUST be unbiased. The purpose is to get you, the voter, the candidates' thoughts and ideas so that you can decide for yourself. If the question is slanted or framed by the mediators politics, you are provided with tainted information.
When did opinion become news anyway?
I just want facts and I'll form my own opinion. Isn't that part of being free?
News channels today are filled with pundits and hosts giving their opinion and spin. It's ridiculous. Why aren't you asked to give yours on tv? Are their beliefs more valid or important than yours?
Why even have citizens vote? Just let the pundits elect the President. Since they're telling you what you should think about a candidate, they may as well just tell you what they decide.
The election thing is a moot point anyways; it's already been decided who will be the next President. The only thing left to do is make you believe that he/she was elected by the people.
I know, I'm being cynical. I mean 2000 and 2004 were 'on the level' elections, weren't they?
Good luck.
November 2, 2007 1:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Fox looked back at the early debate footage and realized that it could be used to make Mitt Romney (who said in one Fox debate that he would "double Guantanamo") and others look bad in the general election. Talking like a macho thug plays well to the Republicans, but perhaps not so well to the centrists....
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