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Poll: Statistically Tied Democratic Race In Iowa
The new Zogby poll in Iowa shows the Democratic race to be a close one between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama — and when the ±4.5% margin of error is figured in, it's a tight race between all top three Dems:
Clinton 28%
Obama 25%
Edwards 21%
Richardson 9%
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I don't doubt that the race is tightening, but Zogby? Please.
November 7, 2007 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just one more data point. From a trend perspective, it's positive for Obama, somewhat negative for Clinton. Overall though, it just confirms what all should have recognized by now . . . Iowa is a very tight race. Very tight.
November 7, 2007 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The most interesting thing about the Zogby poll is he also applied the 15% viability rule and reallocated people who backed "unviable" candidates in their first round to their second choice. The result was 30% Clinton, 29% Obama, 27% Edwards.
November 7, 2007 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Huffington Post has a good piece up about the state of the Edwards campaign in Iowa. Check it out.
November 7, 2007 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's probably closer than this in reality, just because of the way the Iowa caucuses work. Several of the candidates in the race are unlikely to get to 15% in most precincts, meaning anyone who shows up to caucus for them will end up migrating to one of the candidates who do. Edwards seems to have a bit of an advantage in this poll as the second choice of people whose first choices are likely to be eliminated, so it may actually be more like a 3-way tie going in. If it does end up being that tight then a lot will be riding on who has the best precinct captains, which was one of the things Kerry really did right last time.
November 7, 2007 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
72% of Iowa voters want to end the culture of corruption.
November 7, 2007 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Liberal Larry: Is it that low?
November 7, 2007 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are right. It should be around 99.9%.
November 7, 2007 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
It sure would be nice if there was a poll taken with just Hillary, Obama and Edwards in it - where would voters go to? It would also be nice to see a poll of just Hillary and Obama. Where would Edwards voters go if he was out of the race?
That's the BIG question.
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November 7, 2007 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody but Hillary the Hawk
November 7, 2007 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Coonsey,
As I mentioned earlier this very poll actually goes a step further and allocated people who's first choice polled under 15% to whoever their second-choice candidate was.
When you do that, it comes out to:
Clinton 30%
Obama 29%
Edwards 27%
That's a perfectly valid thing to do in this particular case because the Iowa caucuses aren't like a regular primary election. At an Iowa caucus, any candidate that doesn't draw the support of at least 15% of the attendees gets eliminated from consideration and the people who were there for that person have to find themselves another candidate who does have at least 15% support (or else just leave, I guess).
November 7, 2007 10:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Incidentally, it is probably worth noting this reallocation is done at the precinct level, and the cutoff actually varies from 15% up to 25%. Finally, people who initially supported unviable candidates can actually combine with each other to make one of those candidates viable.
One implication of all this is that the reallocation process is basically impossible to model reliably with statewide polls.
A second implication is that the second choice of people whose first choice is getting over 15% statewide in the first round will also matter, because in some precincts they may still have to reallocate.
So, for example, if say Obama and Edwards were both over 15% statewide but they still worked out a deal to encourage their supporters to reallocate to each other in precincts where one or both of them didn't reach the cutoff, that could actually lead to a significant increase in both of their final counts relative to any other candidates who did not have such a deal in place.
November 8, 2007 6:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
DTM: True enough, but those are all going to be fringe cases that can safely be ignored. Let me know if you can't figure out why and I'll explain.
November 8, 2007 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink