I am still waiting on a post concerning the gallup poll that shows that 78% of republicans will vote against clinton II and obama has the support of 39% of republicans against 43% negative. Also, there are republicans organizing to help obama win it all in iowa and other red states. Why isn't that front page news? Obviously, there are alot of republicans that can't stand their choices so they are gravitating to obama. They sure aren't gravitating to clinton II. Talk about putting red states in play. We could have a nominee that unites the country and moves us forward as opposed to another divisive and bitter 4 more years of the same.

Well, surprise surprise...I have been reading these writeups for weeks, touting Hillary leading in this poll or the other, just on and on about her big leads...and despite looking for the MOE it was not in the write up

What do we have here today, now that Hillary is slipping...the MOE!

Michael,

Alll that type of news will only be covered as historical significance to paint of picture of just how Obama won the Presidency after all these polls saying he was behind.

Nothing substantive or truly political significant will be covered about Obama until he is the clear winner. That is not the media narrative and they are sticking to Obama being 'naive and irresponsible'...he is inexperienced.

They are juxtaposes pictures of Pakistan and world conflict with Obama on Oprah, SNL and DeGeneres...to reinforce the image of him being a lightweight. The viewing public gains the perspective that this man is not ready and can't handle the world stage.

In the meantime the facts on the ground, his policy speeches, his key legislation, his grace under pressure and measured way of addressing the most important issues facing us ...will not be covered.

I wonder how Russer is going to skewer him on MTP this coming Sunday..will Obama have the opportunity to demonstrate his track record or will Russert simply ply him with dumb questions about his opponent Hillary?

In other words will the interview be more about Hillary than about what Obama himself brings to the table that allow him to lead with an unshakeable belief in the US Constitution, all that is good about America and how America can be great?

This poll doesn't mean a whole lot. It's all within the MOE and could be nothing more than a slight variance in the numbers. Other surveys with numbers outside the MOE would be necessary to conclude anything meaningful. Edwards has launched tv in NH and Hillary is using direct mail up there. After a week or two of that you may or may not be able to measure a significant change. Edwards certainly must be hoping to do so.

I support Hillary, but giving driver licenses to illegal aliens is a terrible idea. It will only encourage more illegal immigration. Hillary needs to take a moderate stand on this issue: required e-verify for all employees, stiff penalties, and border fence. And then, only then, limited amensty for those who've been here for 3-5 years. Liberal elites, as Democracy Corp and Rahm Emmanuel have pointed out, are out of step with most Independents and moderate Dems. Check out http://numbersusa.com/index

The drop in her numbers and the uptick in Obama's are within the MOE. Her not moving up since the last poll is not.

I'm not convinced that the drop in her numbers is due to the debate. Her national numbers were falling in all the polling done Oct 23-27. With only two million viewers, I wouldn't expect any real change as a result of the debate itself. There may well be a change in her numbers due to the change in the buzz following the debate, but I wouldn't expect to see any of that for at least another week.

On the illegal immigrant driver's license thing, the problem isn't her answer. The problem was the very revealing way she responded when she was asked a question for which she didn't have a canned, focus-group screened, consultant-written response to robotically fire off. Forced to improvise, she reflexively tried to take both sides of the issue rather than just tell us what she actually thinks.

That slip illustrates the very real problem she's going to have governing if she wins. Her whole campaign had been built around getting people to believe that there is a "real" Hillary who shares all of their beliefs and is just concealing them in order to get elected.

Contrary to what many of her supporters seem to believe, this is not "savvy" or "smart" or "perfect campaigning." Instead, she's repeating the worst mistake of GWB's campaign (minus the part where the candidate is a complete imbecile, of course) and undermining her ability to govern effectively if she wins. By leading everyone to believe she'll make the decisions they want her to make once she wins, she's guarenteeing that once she actually has to start making decisions, a lot of people who voted for her are going to be angry and disappointed. This is what causes approval numbers to tank.

Reagan had this part right. Tell people where you stand early on. If they agree with enough of it to vote for you, they'll give you a pass on the stuff they don't like because they at least got a chance to decide how important it was to them.

JFK464 on drivers licenses in NY for illegals:

It will only encourage more illegal immigration.

If I knew that my NY drivers license was that valuable, that people would actually leave their home countries to sneak in and buy one, I would have smiled when they took my picture.

What Hillary had trouble expressing in five seconds is that it was a move that Governor Spitzer made for practical reasons, involving security, money and highway safety. It certainly provides a demagogueable issue, but he is still politically secure after his landslide election, in the first year of his term. It is absolutely true that having the state government provide licenses for illegals (lawbreakers) is questionable. Maybe the government should also stop educating their children, providing police and legal services when they are victims of crime, and building highway underpasses for them to sleep under. The fact is that going through the process of getting a drivers license in effect registers illegal aliens.

It's a difficult issue that deserves more than a sound bite answer. Of course Russert was after a UFO sighting moment and he got it. Hundreds of Hillary supporters and opponents, including her husband, and Samantha Powers, have made her look like the victim, which is exactly what she doesn't need. Now she's claiming a bad day, which we all know is feminine code for. So much for a flawlessly run campaign and Maggie Thatcher image.

But it's early, and we can be thankful that the Democrats have such a strong bench if she does falter.

The potential significance of this poll, with Clinton's lead at 10% and well outside of the MOE, is the noise and feeding frenzy that it is going to generate about the Clinton "inevitability" train being delayed at the station..."Delayed" sounds about right to me.

Perhaps if flesh and blood Americans just woke up and reviewed Clinton's Senate voting record, Clinton would disappear from the polls all together.

Perhaps if the undecided folks made a choice or two the polls would look different.

Perhaps if the corporate media actually paid attention to the rest of the DEM field . . .