How about a screaming headline with that Rasmussen poll showing HRC with a 24 point national lead over Obama? Her lead is bigger than his support!

"Ready to Lead" is not a good idea, IMO. Hillary is selling the idea of her experience on the national political scene. Shouldn't the slogan be "Continuing to Lead" or something along those lines?

This is as bad as her "invisible people" ad this summer and that got jerked off very quickly if I remember correctly.

Stop the presses on this one, Hillary.

"Why would you support such a corrupt candidate?" Hillary is right when she says her opponents are using the Republican playbook. I don't think it's helpful for Democrats to attack each other with that kind of negative language. I certainly wouldn't attack Obama as being 'corrupt,' those he has had dealings which certainly raises questions. Instead, I would say his position towards illegal immigration is weak (DLs), he lacks foreign policy experience, he hasn't been tested on a national stage (just imagine with Republicans would do with him. It would make their treatment of Kerry look gentle), his health care plan is shambles, his talk of Social Security is wrong and bad politics. Bobby Kennedy? I don't think so. More like Howard Dean. His supporter tend to be narrow group of elite voters who don't believe in American exceptionalism, Ivy League educated, illegal immigration loving, petite bourgeoisie, clad in Patagonia, Power Bar eating, Boulder/Berkley Axis, Subaru driving, racially obsessed but won't talk about class -- too close to home and their own privilege. Actually, Hillary is the closes model to Bobby. Tough as nails, willing to fight for what she believes in but also willing to acknowledge a politically untenable position (driver's licenses for illegals? Wait until an illegal with an SF i.d. murders an American citizen. The i.d. thing will look weak and dangerous, as it is). Hillary understands the country and the political game. She's an idealist without illusions, like JFK. Read Bernstein's book. She's an amazing, brilliant, compassionate woman. She's nothing like the image Republicans have been putting forward and Obama supports have been appropriating.

So it's not okay to say those things about an individual candidate but it's okay to make such gross and general accusations against people who support a candidate (fellow Democrats as you might say)? I find error in your tactics.

I am not calling Hillary names, the simple fact is that she has been corrupted by the system. Her views change with the wind, and she has LESS experience than Barack Obama when it comes to political office.

Hillary is more like Bobby Kennedy? As a long-time admirer or Mr. Kennedy I find that comparison insulting and I suspect he would as well. The change and the new ideas that Senator Obama will bring to the White House, this country, and this world can only be compared to the those ideas of Bobby Kennedy; to suggest otherwise is laughable and represents a clear distortion of not only the legacy of Bobby Kennedy but also the truth about Hillary Clinton.

If Hillary serious about change; she wouldn't allow lobbyists to fund her campaign, she would actually admit to making a mistake when it came to the Iraq war resolution, she wouldn't stifle stories in major publications by using access to her husband as a tool, she wouldn't waver on five different issues at a debate and LITERALLY never answer a question.. I have never heard Mrs. Clinton actually answer the question that has been asked. She is a mess, her campaign is based on false experience and the fact that she is a woman--not good enough reasons to lead at a time like this, I am sorry.

Also, I'm glad you can blanket racism into the veiled threats of immigration and border security by the way, you people make me sick. Worry about the Canadian border if anything, you know, the border where the 9/11 hijackers came in through. These ID cards are a public safety concern and history has shown us that it works to promote public health and drivers safety. Look at the facts!

I wish people could look at the facts, look at voting records, look at public statements and views and make their decisions based off of that; not based off of gender or spin.

"I'm glad you can blanket racism into the veiled threats of immigration and border security by the way, you people make me sick." I never mentioned anyone's race; I mentioned illegality. I'm abhor racism. I also abhor declining wages and classism. Again, something the far left won't talk about: though it seems easy for you to casually throw out terms like ‘corrupt’ and ‘racist.’ My gross generalizations were a joke; I didn't mean to insult Power Bars. But there is a serious point. If you're going to carelessly throw out the word 'corrupt,' then I think you should own that fact that your candidate has a narrow appeal on the national stage. Look at the national polls and the demographics. It's largely made of elites who are out of step with mainstream Democrats (68% of Democrats oppose driver's licenses for illegals. Would you infer that the base of our party is racist? Or concerned about lawlessness and a diluted workforce? It's the latter, I promise you). Lastly, having personally spoken with Harris Wofford (JFK’s liaison on civil rights, I’m such a racist), I can assure that Bob Kennedy wouldn’t have accepted the lawlessness of illegal immigration (neither would his friend Cesar Chaves – that’s been well documented). In fact, at the end of this life RFK was speaking about law and order and personal responsibility. And Gene McCarthy, the Obama of his day, inferred that Bobby was playing the race card.

Lou Dobbs Dem and his/her posts are so ugly and so stupid. Hard to imagine ever wanting to align with anything or anyone that one represents.....recoiling is a much more likely response.

Holy dogshit!

Now Sgt Kleefeld's turning TPMElectHillary Central into a literaturew dump

@John McCutchen:

Like TPMElect hasn't been showing the mailings from any other candidate besides HRC.

I'm fairly new here, and even *I* have seen, and read the discussions, picking apart mailers from all the major candidates.

Matt Hinds,
I’m an admirer of RFK too. That you think a comparison between RFK and HRC laughable clearly shows that you have a very narrow perception of Kennedy as well as of Hillary Clinton. Perhaps you should do well to make an effort to educate yourself on these two distinguished Americans?

That free immigration, no boundaries and world citizenship and so on and so forth is a nice dream everyone here can agree upon. But so f*cking what??? Do you seriously think this dream is in any way relevant for the upcoming election??? I’m sure you could get a vote or two from Berkely and from SF city and perhaps also a few from a Massachusetts campus; but then there is the little problem with the 250 million or so Americans in between.

Said RFK: “There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were, and ask 'Why not?'” He did not however confuse the things that were and the things that never were. There is no shame in being experienced and politically savvy, no shame in being able to compromise to achieve something rather than nothing.

All the huff and puff on hope and change and whatnot from Obama and Edwards aside; precisely because Hillary Clinton is a very ideologically principled and experienced politician she knows what will work politically and what will not. Clearly, Hillary Clinton is the candidate with the most to offer to working class Americans in general and working class women in particular. They are not to benefit from identity politics but they stand and fall with good government, with mainstreaming and universalism and with redistributive efforts from the government. And they are the one’s to pay a steep price for crusader politicians, be they left or right.