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Bill Clinton: "Those Boys Have Been Getting Tough" On Hillary
A statement in South Carolina today by Bill Clinton should give some strong ammunition to those who have accused the Hillary campaign of playing the gender card in order to win sympathy/support.
"Even though those boys have been getting tough on her lately, she can handle it," the former president said to a student audience in Charleston.
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She can "handle it" by having the Big Dawg attack?
November 12, 2007 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good Lord, now children are picking on Hillary?
November 12, 2007 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it me, or has Bill not been very helpful to HRC as of late?
November 12, 2007 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad Stephen Colbert is no longer running in South Carolina!!!
November 12, 2007 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chivalry does not become him, I'm afraid.
November 12, 2007 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good gravy! kleefeld is a joke. [not in a good way either]. But he fits right to what tpm has become:
SEN. OBAMA: ... So on Social Security, for example, she has maintained, it appears, that if we just get our fiscal house in order that we can solve the problem of Social Security. Now, we’ve got 78 million baby boomers that are going to be retiring, and every expert that looks at this problem says “There’s going to be a gap, and we’re going to have more money going out than we have coming in unless we make some adjustments now.”
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But what I’m going to continue to insist on is that the reason we need to fix it now is precisely to protect our senior citizens and maintain not only Social Security as a social insurance program, but also make sure that the benefits are sufficient so that we don’t have seniors in need.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21738432/
Mentions of this on tpm: 0. Remember when tpm was ‘save social security from being saved’ central? All that time and effort marshall but in to the last SS scam. Well, that was then, this is obama. So it won’t be mentioned.
November 12, 2007 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's Official
November 12, 2007 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
His comments were clear and don't mean much. He's making obvious observations.
Hillary will kick your ass.
November 12, 2007 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
hadenough:
When all else fails, try to change the subject eh? This must be an example of Turning Up the Heat! Take that Eric!
November 12, 2007 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
hadenough:
You didn't see the Obama "Social Security" thread today?
November 12, 2007 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/obama_endorses_changes_to_social_security_tax_cap.php#comments
November 12, 2007 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know everyone is using the phrase "gender card" but it doesn't seem like an apt description to me. The Hillary camp is obviously doing *something* with gender -- but it's decidedly NOT about using her gender as a white flag -- i.e., "don't pick on me, I'm a girl!" It's almost the opposite, really. They're highlighting her gender in a way that makes her seem strong, almost above the fray. This whole "boys are getting tough" thing seems designed to make the other candidates seem silly. I have mixed feelings about Hillary, but I have to say, I think the way they are playing this is pretty brilliant.
November 12, 2007 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill continues to play the gender card.
This message was targeted to women.
Look at how the boys are gaining up on Hillary ladies, she needs your support...let's show these boys they can't beat up on a girl...vote for Hillary
That's the message...it's gender identity politics.
The question is are there enough men willing to vote AGAINST Hillary to make the Clintons and HRClinton's campaign pay for this pandering.
Bill is making this campaign about race vs. gender...what's it gonna be America?
Are you racist or sexist...that's how the voting is being framed.
It is slimeball politics.
November 12, 2007 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am guessing that Bill is ticked at Hill cuz he hasta leave what he wants to be doing and bail her butt out . . . OR he read directly from the cue card the Clinton Campaign gave him rather than running it through the Bill Clinton charm.
Either way . . . I vote that this tid-bit gets added to the ever going 'ball fumbled' pile.
SIDENOTE: Is it bad of me that I, like Jack D., am sadden by the loss of Stephen Colbert in South Carolina.
SIDENOTE #2: Jakey-poo,
I find myself little bothered about Obama's draw-down answer. The Chimp-in-Charge still has a year to further farg-up the sitution. There are plenty varibles in the mix.
I am troubled by the lack of alarm you are showing about Obama's lack of support for human rights . . . If he gets elected he might handle human rights as well as your dream boy only with an eye towards you and your ilk . . . I would be coming unglued if I were you.
November 12, 2007 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.
November 12, 2007 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
So its OK to call Senator Obama a "boy" if he's grouped with a bunch of white guys.
Bizarre.
November 12, 2007 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I predicted that Bill would lose his shine because of Hillary's campaign.......many months ago. That he would call the men running for president 'boys' is asinine. Truth is that Bill is now Hillary's clean up 'boy'.
November 12, 2007 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill had a tendency to make things worse when he talked about his own scandals (e.g., "I didn't inhale" and "I did not have sex with that woman"). So to me it is unsurprising that he now keeps making things worse for Hillary.
November 12, 2007 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
WJClinton Playing the gender card is starting to backfire.
Although Hillary Clinton has seen a decline in support among many groups within New Hampshire’s likely Democratic Primary electorate, one of the biggest changes has been among men forty-five years of age and older. Last month, she led both Barack Obama and John Edwards by 20 percentage points among this group. It is now a three-way contest.
November 12, 2007 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Things do turn on Inevitability Campaigns! All over the 24 hour news nets.
Who knows. The chattering class pfft!
Know one thing though.
Big Dog sure is howlin
November 12, 2007 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awwwwww. Poor clinton II, can't stand the heat, so throw out the gender card. Pathetic.
November 12, 2007 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it just me, but has the lyin' press found a way to get us to tell as many lies about Hillary as they did unassisted about Gore?
November 12, 2007 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
It must just be you jim h., because as far as I can tell she has been getting a major free pass from the corporate right wing press. Where are the hard questions? Where is the probing to find out what she stands for? Not from the press, she just gets soft balls, just like the king. That's why they call her bush-lite.
November 12, 2007 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Clinton is using the gender card and at the same time belittling her democratic rivals by calling them boys. It is disrespectful for an ex president to call Biden, Richardson, Obama, Dodd, Kucinich, Edwards and Gravel boys. These are very respectful men who have earned enough respect not to be called boys, and it also has some racist overtones in there with one of them being an african american. You know, I think Bill Clinton is playing the good ole boy crap in South Carolina which should be very offensive to african americans.
November 12, 2007 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Friends
About Social Security- The Great Greenspan himself opined that the socalled SocSec Crisis was no big deal, likely to solve itself. Why should Obama be flogging this Republican talking point?
Ed Cogburn
November 12, 2007 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is obviously a completely off hand comment. Obviously the college age beltway contingent on TPM isn't familiar enough with Clinton's southern dialect. I think he just said what he thinks, and seeing as Hillary's the only woman in the race it's safe to say the rest are all boys/men. What a waste of time.
November 12, 2007 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You guys are obsessing over the spin of the spin of the spin of an answer from a debate.
November 12, 2007 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just picked up the item on Feinstein at HuffPo. I wonder how close she lives to Pelosi in The City called San Francisco.
Must be rather close, I imagine.
Good ol' Diane Lieberman Feinstein! Yes,
she done got herself 'illuminated' during her conversation with Shrub on Air Force One enroute west. Thence she votes to affirm a racist homophobe to the federal bench plus the new attorney general.
Dan White must have shoved some sort of capsule up her butt, set to dissolve in 30 years.
November 13, 2007 4:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
The latest news is the Hillary's campaign says Bill's comment was a "Southern thing" not a "gender thinng" What?
Does anyone think Bill is helping Hillary seem like a strong, independent leader with this comments? It seems like Bill has found the mike and the spotlights and can't step aside.
November 13, 2007 7:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Lord you people are over wrought.
What a stupid "issue" to get worked up over. Relax. Watch some TV. This is a non-event.
Also, this is an ex-parrot.
November 13, 2007 8:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't think rssrai was right at first, but it seems he / she may be on to something: "I think Bill Clinton is playing the good ole boy crap in South Carolina which should be very offensive to african americans." See new thread http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/clinton_camp_bill_was_using_southern_slang_not_playing_up_gender.php#comments
November 13, 2007 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
BruceMcF:
Did you see that Bill Clinton is ADMITTING to using "boy" as in the Southern slang?!
November 13, 2007 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink