Poll: Hillary And Edwards Tied In North Carolina
A new poll of North Carolina from Democratic firm Public Policy Polling shows the state's Dem primary to be a dead heat between Hillary Clinton and native some John Edwards, with Fred Thompson leading on the Republican side:
Democrats:
Clinton 32%
Edwards 31%
Obama 20%Republicans:
Thompson 31%
Giuliani 20%
McCain 11%
Romney 11%
Hillary leads Edwards 38%-28% among women, with Obama at 19%. Edwards, meanwhile, leads among men with 35%, followed by Hillary at 24% and Obama with 22%. Among whites, Edwards wins with 38% to Hillary's 32%, with Obama at 11%. Among blacks, Obama leads with 45%, followed by Hillary at 33% and Edwards at 12%.
The Democratic survey has a margin of error of ±3.9%, while the Republican survey's margin is ±3.5%.
Comments (5)
mitzi morris wrote on October 8, 2007 4:16 PM:I have become alarmed at the majority of comments on HuffPo blogs that continually bash Hillary and smear her as a fascist, simplistic, in the control of "handlers", and beholden only to corporate America. A Goldwater lover in sheep's clothing and other smears.
The degree of hate, misinformation seems to coming from left democrats and I believe GOP Trolls. Naderites also.
When asked to attribute their allegations and verify with specifics, there are no responses other than I am negative.
There seems to be a group Arianna encourages to react in this way. While I don't object to any form of civilized discourse, this is all hostile.
Any comment?
dcshungu wrote on October 8, 2007 6:40 PM:The degree of hate, misinformation seems to coming from left democrats and I believe GOP Trolls. Naderites also.
Yes, will comment: I believe that you have correctly diagnosed the 'problem' and that no action needs to be taken, as, although they are quite loud and 'passionate' (read: obnoxious), these are but a very small minority, who generally can be ignored unless the election very, very close (e.g., Naterites and Gore v. Bush, 2000). These folks who'd rather have a Giuliani presidency, even after 8 years of absolutely disastrous Repub reign, than to vote for Hillary. In other words, do not lose your sleep over what these winguts (left or right) spew non-stop about Clinton. At this point they do not really matter. In fact, usually I am perversely satisfied when they come in here and rant every time national polls show HRC consolidating her lead or edging ahead in the early states...
You're not alone!
libra wrote on October 8, 2007 7:35 PM:mitzi,
I'm not a fan of Hillary's, but Arianna is "something else". I think a) her Republican past is showing and b)she has problems with strong women in general -- of either party -- she has a low tolerance for them. I stopped reading huffpo almost 2 yrs ago (as soon as I found TPM and a couple of other, also more balanced, sites) because of that. But I'm not at all surprised that she sounds as if she were encouraging attacks on Hillary; she probably *is*
Maureen Dowd is another one like that. It almost makes me embarassed to be of the same age and sex as those two witches.
Lookingforhome wrote on October 8, 2007 7:58 PM:mitzi,
The previous two posts have both said it well. Sometimes the intensity of hatred and vitriol can make it seem like a relatively small number of people represent a movement when they are just a small group of very angry, frustrated people.
I respect the passion of activists, but there seems like a line that you cross when you project all this clearly inaccurate stuff -- like "HRC is just another rethug" -- because you disagree with someone's politics. She's clearly not as devout a liberal as some would like and she is a great target for frustration about the general public not being such devout liberals either.
The most noticeable thing to me is the difference in how criticisms of Obama or Edwards differ. They're not my first choice but would clearly support them over ANY Republican if they get the nom. Contrarily, the personal animus these liberals feel would make them not vote or vote for a true "repug" just to spite Clinton...and themselves. (Of course, the fact that they've stooped to such hatred is another thing they project -- charging that so much of the country feels that way that she's a bad candidate...what a bizarre self-fulfilling prophecy.)
dcshungu has it right -- at some point you just have to ignore them and let them stand in a circle and scream at each other.
daniel155 wrote on October 9, 2007 12:22 AM:The problem is that Edwards won't be around by the time North Carolina holds it primary.
