Perhaps Denis was sexually abused as a child. Many UFO abductions/encounters are traced back to that kind of childhood trauma.

Rudy Giuliani might shed light on this, seeing as he employs an accused pedophile priest.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/10/23/giuliani-employs-accused-pedophile-priest/

Cool!

headline/picture combo.

This will unfortunately be taken the way TPM is taking it, based on your home page graphic, but kudos to Kucinich for allowing word of this to stand.

It's precisely in the area of things that we assume we know about but don't. Count yourself very blessed indeed if any more of this story is shared.

This is why I subscribed to The Onion and the National Enquirer. News with a high entertainment value. The Daily Show writers should have to return their paychecks this week.

Who hasn't seen a UFO? I saw several. It might have been experimental aircraft from an airbase near by, but I saw them none the less. And others saw them too.
Kucinich is acknowledging there might be something more than just us. So what? Religious people do that every Sunday in church.

It sounds like Dennis had a spiritual experience. He doesn't have to explain it to anyone, as long as he doesn't use it an excuse to start wars in God's name.

I don't care what the source of Kucinich's inspiration might be, he's the only presidential candidate talking plainly and sanely about our country's direction. His platform, boiled down, is: Stop using war and military force as instruments of national policy and start orienting our actions toward peace and disarmament; put human needs -- health care, education, jobs, environmental protection -- at the top of our domestic agenda.

Maybe his personal world's a little kooky, but it's sure a lot less destructive than the self-interests and self-delusions of whoever is going to end up as president.

Kucinich had to learn how to pick up women somewhere...!

News? No. Relevant to the 2008 election? No. Pathetic for Election Central to post on this? Yes.

Wny all of the Kucinich hit pieces from the editors of TPM (like the Special K moniker)?
Why?
A world where a Kucinich could lead would be a great place to live for all except the psychotic rich.
He may be kooky but he is not a liar unlike the anoited Democratic nominee.

Think about this, what if the Kucinich folks and the Ron Paul folks got together?

They are closer than you might think.

DK phone home!

Look! Quite a few people have seen this type of craft in WASHINGTON STATE, also British Columbia in Canada... however, I didn't get any messages from it -- Instead I immediately thought of THE military base on Whidbey Island...

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=97426&view=findpost&p=987237

And if some other dip actress were to say that she and Hillary once danced around crop circles in the nude would TPM put the story up?

Of course not.

TPM is disgustingly following the right-wing strategy of using unverifiable hit pieces to smear those who it does not like, eg, those not named "Hillary"

Shame on TPM. Bookmark removed. When is the next hit piece on Obama?

I used to live near Shirley's neighborhood, and Dennis' vision of a UFO was probably caused by fumes from a local meth lab. At the time (a few years ago) there was a massive meth epidemic in the area. Our local Radio Shack led all Radio Shacks in the nation in the sale of lithium batteries.

Well if we can have a dimwit president claiming he spoke with and has a close association with god, why can't Dennis Kucinich have a sighting? I walked a 500 foot long crop circle and analysed it for several hours. Nothing odd about these things if you feel there is ET. It's more plausible than angels.

In the interests of full disclosure, I urge candidate Kucinich to identify that object.

I'll be sending Chris Dodd some $ by US mail. All of my future contributions to Dennis Kucinich will be delivered by spaceship.

Google under "BBD," "Big Black Delta," and/or "Black Triangle" for information about a likely government secret "black" program.

I am not sure which is more disturbing - That DK sees UFOs or that he is friends with Shirley MaClaine. Yikes.

I have to chime in with my disappointment in TPM. Eric's story (above) is fine. And a link from the main blog, without a lot of snark would be fine, too. But the column inches, and the attitude, seem excessive.

Does anyone remember the 2000 election? The mainstream media adopted a "script" about the candidates. In particular, the script for Al Gore was that he was a serial exaggerator -- inspiration for Love Story, the man who found Love Canal, the inventor of the internet, etc.. Every single one of those incidents has been de-bunked and explained, but the damage was done (and most people, to this day, have never heard the de-bunking).

I wasn't reading TPM back then, but did this blog participate in spreading those un-truths? Did TPM fall into the trap of labeling Gore as an exaggerator, and taking cheap jabs at him just for giggles? I seriously doubt it.

So why go down that road now? The MSM "script" for Kucinich is that he's a kook. Why feed that notion? And why delight in it so much?? C'mon, TPM, I expect a little better from you.

If the facts are really there to support the story, then find those facts and tell us. But consider the sources for this story -- Shirley MacClaine (as in surely you must be joking), and the CPD, which has a history with Mr. Kucinich already. Where is your normal level of skepticism? Why do you feel compelled to let it validate the MSM script so quickly??

Last week you all treated Ron Paul in the same dismissive way, regarding his so-called "unibomber" note to his supporters. I was disappointed then, as well.

You can do better, and you normally do.

Thanks for listening.

-- ARG

I don't want to get too far up on my "high" horse because I have seen and heard things I wouldn't want to discuss at a job interview. Who is Warren Beatty backing this election by the way? And if this is a hit piece, good for Dennis, he must be scarying someone.

Oh, what ever became of Jean Houston, after She and Hillary Clinton stopped trying to "reach" Elinor Roosevelt?

"Anyone who hasn't seen a UFO..."

I have seen flying object I couldn't immediately identify, but I can honestly say they've never caused me to smell roses. I have also read my horoscope from time to time, but that doesn't make me Nancy Reagan.

Rationalize this episode as you wish, and blame it on TPM if you must, but UFO-and-roses-sensing ability is not a quality I seek out in a presidential candidate. I have already waited seven long years for a return to reason and I don't intend to give up now.

And Official A and Zap Rowsdowner make my point: we have no comment from Dennis Kucinich, but as far as these readers are concerned, it definitely happened, end of story.

-- ARG

Reagan saw UFOs several times. Here's the first story:

Ronald Reagan’s daughter Patti Davis described her father as "fascinated with stories about unidentified flying objects and the possibility of life on other worlds." She compared the "madness" of her father’s inauguration day to "a fifty’s movie in which flying saucers descend on the metropolis."

Reagan may have gained this intense interest from sightings he had while he was Governor of California. Kitty Kelly in her Unauthorized Biography of Nancy Reagan stated Reagan admitted to believing in flying saucers, and "even swore that he had seen a few unidentified flying objects."

Two of these Reagan UFO encounters have become public. The first sighting story was made public by Steve Allen on his WNEW-AM radio show in New York. Allen stated that a well know personality in the entertainment industry had confided a UFO story to him many years before. As the story had already made the rounds in the rumor mill, there was no question the comedian and host was referring to Ronald Reagan and his wife Nancy.

Ron and Nancy were expected at a casual dinner party with friends in Hollywood. Except for the Reagans, all the guests had arrived. Ron and Nancy showed up a half hour later quite upset. They stated that they had seen a UFO coming down the coast.

Lucille Ball in her book "Lucy in the Afternoon" also described the event. In her account of the event she stated, “After he elected President, I kept thinking about that event, and wondered if he still would have won if he told everyone that he saw a flying saucer.”

full story:
http://www.presidentialufo.com/reagan_ufo_story.htm

And what exactly is an incoming missile ...

An IFO.

Incoming Friggin' Object.

That is what the Iraqi's have had to deal with for how long ?

An UAOT

Unbearable Amount Of Time.

If we keep on down this track, we will be deserving a ...

MBW

Massive Butt Whoopin'

Sounds like having a department of peace is a ...

MFI

Mighty Fine Idea.

And who has been pushing that idea ...

Dennis Kucinich

Here's the story of Jimmy Carter's UFO sighting:

As previously mentioned, Jimmy Carter is one of two U.S. Presidents who have reported seeing a UFO before becoming the President....

Carter’s UFO sighting began shortly after dark on a windless night. Jimmy Carter was standing outside the Lion’s Club in Leary, Georgia, waiting for a meeting to start. Suddenly, he and ten or more witnesses, sighted a red and green orb radiating in the western sky. Carter described an object that "it seemed to move towards us from a distance, stop, move partially away, return, then depart. Bluish at first; then reddish - luminous - not solid."

"At times," reported Carter, "it was as bright as the moon, and about as big as the moon - maybe a bit smaller. The object was luminous; not solid."

In an interview with the Atlanta Constitution, Carter described the moving nature of the event. He described the sighting as a "very remarkable sight." This is an important event, because many of the skeptical investigations done on the Carter sighting, have tried to paint the event as a ho-hum occurrence. None of the descriptions Carter has made of the event have ever described it as ho-hum.

Jimmy Carter’s mother Lillian also confirmed that Carter had been very impressed by what he had seen. "The UFO made a huge impression on Jimmy," she stated. "He told me about the sighting many times. He’s always been a down-to-earth no-nonsense boy, and the sighting by him, as far as I am concerned, is as firm as money in the bank."

Carter had, in fact, described the UFO sighting many times in the years since it occurred. In every instance, including the latest known telling of the story at Emory University in 1997, Carter has never backed off on the spectacular nature of the event. He has also never conceded that was he saw was some misidentification of a natural phenomena.

Carter estimated that the object was three hundred to one thousand yards away. He estimated that the event had lasted 10 minutes. Then the object disappeared. Carter was so impressed by what he had seen, he recorded his impressions of the event on a tape recorder at the time.

http://www.presidentialufo.com/jimmy.htm

And here's the link to his official signed report:

http://www.presidentialufo.com/carter_ufo_report.htm

I thought I may have found the link...

perfect.

Dennis seeing an alien is the same thing as us seeing a real human being run for president.

It's amazing we can even recognize one anymore!

I lived Smartguy`s comment"Cool."
After reading the other comments on here I would add:"What`s so bad about seeing a flying triangle?"
I also object to the term"intelligent life."

Just keep telling yourself its all a bunch of hogwash! But remember, we're the REALITY BASED COMMUNITY. We look at evidence and come to logical conclusions based on it. We don't summarily dismiss ideas because they don't fit our preconceived notions...that's what the Republicans do.

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/2007.html

Correction to my previous post...Right Wing Smear Machine said Gore and Tipper (not Hillary) were inspiration for the novel "Love Story."

George Adamski wrote about meeting a Venutian who was master of a UFO in the Arizona desert in the 1940's. He was told they were deeply concerned about humanity destroying the Earth by means of nuclear war or polution. They have supposedly been mopping up our nuclear radiation since then...as a neighborly gesture. By all accounts they are far more advanced thaan we and have only the best of intentions.

We have come to stop WWIII.

Redav Htrad

So what? Lots of people have seen UFOs.

McClaine is no friend though, since she must know what kind of damage this could do to his political career. With friends like her, who needs enemies?

You all would love to be judgmental of me and my beliefs. I respect both Shirley & Dennis. The attackers believe the delusion that Bush is a President and in control and is a Republican with Chaney & Co. believe that deficit spending and record national debt does not matter(massive spending w/deficits & fiscal irresponsibility are not Republican values), when they came in we had a surplus. Then we wonder why gas costs so much money when it is worth so little in the world now. It is for the first time on a par with the Canadian $. And you would love to say that Shirley, Dennis & I are crazy for believing in peace, the betterment for all people in the planet and becoming their full potential and a richer spiritual life. I did not say religious. I think that I will keep my own delusions where I believe in UFO contacts & crop circles being a form of communication. Closed minds will never understand. At it's discovery, it was thought electricity was magic and evil.

I still think DK has to explain his friendship and visitations with fruitloops like MacLaine.

rbt

The masses will become struck in awe when they come.

So Dennis Kucinich saw a UFO?

And who eles has seen one, but was too afraid to admit it for exactly the reasons we are seeing now, because they were afraid to admit the truth?

And how much money have we, just the USA alone, spent on looking for life in the universe? And if that life we're looking for happens to find us before we find them, then why is anyone surprised?

Look at all of the presidents, Republican and Democrat, who've seen UFOs too. Were they crazy or honest?

My E-mail to MSNBC:
hardball@msnb.com, subcin@aol.com
I realize that Mathews and his " Howard Beal" impersonation are good for MSNBCs ratings, but last night he went off the deep end and asked the other candidates if they also believe in UFOs like Kuncinich does. With all of the other important things to discuss, this hysterical old gossip monger is gnawing on a red meat, tabloid, soundbite.
Chris Mathews is about to have, or is in the middle of having a real emotional breakdown and the "NETWORK" is exploiting him just like the exploit everything they cover.
I bet you he has to take a leave of absence soon because he is out of control and will soon do something to embarass his handlers..

You all should know that This Network and The Fox Propaganda Network has opened Pandora's Box and it will all come back to bite you on the ass with a vengance.

What ever happend to The News?

A R Graham

I agree with Angel. It's pretty abysmal that Kucinich's comments about impeachment were totally ignored by the media coverage which chose to focus instead on UFOs. Which is worse: Seeing things that may or may not be out there and which may yet have a credible explanation; or not hearing, or refusing to acknowledge, a statement about our endangered democracy heard by millions of people?

I watched the debate last night and was truly amazed in the way the audience heckled Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich. Afterwards the press treated him and the subject of UFOs as something of a joke, or worse! Perhaps all you hecklers need to be reminded ...

Ronald Reagan saw a UFO! The pilot of Governor Reagan's plane was Bill Paynter, and he backed up Reagan’s version of the incident with the UFO. Former Arizona Governor Fife Symington, since leaving office, said he too had witnessed the huge 'UFO triangle' sighting reported over Phoenix that so many folks saw over ten years ago. Oh yes, and how could we forget the much publicized UFO sighting that good ol' Jimmy had . So keep laughing ...

So why all the fuss after all these years? I believe that U.S. citizens, besides becoming a very cynical society, are also spending way too much time inside hiding in front of their computers , TVs or their work desks and not enough time outdoors where most all flying objects would be seen anyway. Please recall all those folks through out our history that were once laughed at for their progressive or different ideas. Many of them are frontiers in their field today and will forever live in our history books as a reminder of what can happen even after your friends and neighbors once tried making you into their town fool!

Jim

well, remember if you peoples saw UFO and alien in real life...no one will believe you until u have a evidence or proof...here same happen to Dennis Kucinich coz he hasn't evidence...but i do believe him..and i had had like to comment about ufo...if these were a secret aircraft made by human...why do nasa need to waste there money in preparing jet and stealth? are they mad? This all mean there is something which the world doesn't have...