TPM Election Central | Talking Points Memo | Rudy: 9/11 Changed My Mind On Gun Control

Yeah, if only we let people carry guns on planes.

Posted by Shii
September 21, 2007 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink

No, Shii, Rudy wasn't arguing that we needed guns on planes.

Remember, he was mayor of NYC at the time of 9/11, so he's bringing his experience of the day to this issue.

If only NYC had had more relaxed gun laws on 9/11, armed New Yorkers in the streets could have shot the planes down with their handguns.

Posted by The Confidence Man
September 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink

Right now I'm laughing so hard I nearly lost bladder control.

Tomorrow, when Matt Lauer is reporting this with a straight face and the talking heads on Tweety's show are nodding sagely over Rudy's brilliance savviness in linking 9/11 to gun uncontrol, I'm sure I'll be chewing on the carpet.

Posted by NCSteve
September 21, 2007 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink

Did this guy wipe his ass before 9-11?

Posted by Wayne S
September 21, 2007 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink

Interesting take. It's insane, of course, but it's interesting.

Think about it. With this demented excuse, Rudy has actually managed to conjure up the specter of an invasion of America by al Qaeda. And that, I think, is precisely what he wants. We need more guns so we can fight the invading Muslim hordes house to house in our own neighborhoods. How better to scare the bejesus out of people into voting for him?

I think Rudy just promoted himself from lunatic to criminally insane.

Posted by gcs
September 21, 2007 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink

Please, please include the video of Rudy taking the cell phone call from the wife - during his speech. It's a warm, touching few moments.

Posted by Bill
September 21, 2007 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink

How to run for president as a republican.

Rule 1: If you have ever changed your position on ANYTHING, it's because of 9/11.

Posted by bryan
September 21, 2007 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink

and remember, if Iraq has taught us nothing, it's that an armed society is a polite society. :)

Posted by Lionel
September 21, 2007 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink

actually, this isn't insane as much as cut 'n' paste. "9/11" is permanently lodged in his mental clipboard.

Posted by benjoya
September 21, 2007 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink

wait...Rudy was mayor of NYC when 9/11 happened? I didnt know that, maybe he should mention it more often.

Posted by Brian P
September 21, 2007 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink

anything to win an election

Posted by demwinger
September 21, 2007 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink

I am surprised that Hizzoner Il Duce did not also toss out the Katrina aftermath as well.

Posted by bubba
September 21, 2007 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink

I told ya's before & I'll tell ya's again. Those of you who don't live in the Tri-State area are in for a treat. Julie-Annie has the potential to make The Chimp look like a statesman.

Posted by mickey g
September 21, 2007 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink

Rudy shows a disconnect from reality if he thinks the typical voter will accept this load of crap. How stupid does he think we are? What contempt!

Posted by Davis
September 21, 2007 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink

My guess is that Rudy will soon announce to Dobson's group that he has had an epiphany regarding the evil of abortion and that too was caused by 9/11. Rudy finally realized that every aborted fetus is one less soldier in the War on Terror.

Posted by tom
September 21, 2007 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink

Mikey has it right; this man is Chimp on Meth! God help us all if he ever gets anywhere near the White House.

Posted by William Stricklin
September 21, 2007 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink

shii said it best. The comment strips Rudy bare to true ridiculousness.
Will he tell TSA to let guns through, as long as the guns aren't carried by Middle Eastern types?

Posted by jeff Grunewald
September 21, 2007 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink

9/11 changed everything, 9/11 changed EVERYthing, 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING!!!!!blah, blah, blah. That's ALL this man has to sell. Somehow I find it totally incredible that Rudy, on the night of 9/11, stayed up to read a book about Churchill. This man has absolutely NO shame. He is a pandering lying sack. Hopefully the rest of America will wake up to the fraud that he is before they elect another moron.

Posted by ihatebeets
September 21, 2007 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink

Maybe he's encouraging the ownership of PRGs and surface to air missiles? My guess is that next he will want us to buy hazmat suits, get anthrax vaccinations, stock up on duct tape, and plastic sheeting.

Meh. Republican reaction to terror: go shopping, at least for a gun.

Posted by sailmaker
September 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink

Rudy Strategic Memorandum

What changed my mind about gun control: 9/11.

Why must the US attack Iran: 9/11.

When did my career as a politician crawl out of the crapper: 9/11.

What is the best answer I can offer when called to the carpet about my conservative credentials, or lack thereof: 9/11.

Why am I the best candidate for the Republican nomination: 9/11.

What was my greatest contribution to the 9/11 Panel: 9/11.

What is my favorite number: 9/11.

Posted by sy
September 21, 2007 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink

was that 9-11-01 or 9-11-07? has he ever said this before, or did he just realize why he changed his mind?

Posted by btonnessen
September 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink

So he's saying that 9/11 made him change his views on the 2nd Amendment? Does this mean that he believes Americans do need more guns in their homes so they can rise up against a govt. that continues to take away our rights, invade our privacy and commit atrocities in our names? Because that was the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. Not for hunting reasons, not for gun lovers, but so you could rise up against your govt. Somehow I doubt that's what he meant by it, but its interesting to think about...

Posted by Aaronsmiles
September 21, 2007 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink

Best way to run for president as a Republican:

Shoot a gay abortion doctor at Ground Zero.

Posted by Sam
September 21, 2007 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink

Can someone explain to me how 911 would make one change their mind about handguns?

Posted by mark
September 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink

9/11 made me dress up in drag!

Posted by rudy
September 21, 2007 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink

With Christmas not too far away, I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Rudy doll.

No matter what question you ask it, when you pull the string on the back of its neck, it mindlessly repeats the same thing:

"9/11, 9/11, 9/11"

Posted by NJ Lawyer
September 21, 2007 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink

Yee-haw! Rudy's nailed it fer this boy, I tell ya!

If'n only Rudy had seen the light before 9/11, he wouldn't have deprived one of his fellow New Yorkers from packing an M2A1 40-mm twin anti-aircraft gun along with his lunch and laptop as he left his god-fearin' wife 'n' chillun for work in them Twin Towers.

When that old boy saw them airplanes a'coming in with them Islamo-fascists at the controls, he could have busted out a couple clips of armor-piercing ammo 'n' laid waste to the whole shebang.

But, no, instead Rudy caved to the liberal New York Times readin' anti-gun elite who want to deprive us of our god-givin' right to shoot hijacked aircraft out of the sky over midtown Manhattan while the black helicopters from the Trilateral Commission take off from the UN with their SWAT teams a'going to stop some Christian folk in Montana from doing the Lord's work a'killing abortion doctors.

Hell, even Bill Clinton said he believed in conversion, so now that Rudy's on Team NRA he got my vote.

Or would have, if'n I hadn't been convicted on a felony weapons smuggling charge.

Posted by Hemlock for Gadflies
September 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink

"9/11 really changed my mind about marital fidelity. You never now when a terrorist will attack, so I wanna screw as many crazy broads as possible before it's too late."

Posted by Winston Smith
September 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink

Of course -- 9/11 changed EVERYTHING! It's perfect! Rudy and Mitt have their answer now.

Posted by derekcito
September 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink

Hey guys 911 changed everything, right.
How comes Julie-Anny didn't show up in his bunker that day? T'was supposed to be safe tough, in WTC7, wasn't it- didn't take an aircraft or even any serious damage.
Ooops, t's right, I almost forgot the building was to be pulled in the afternoon.
Ah, and oh btw, has anyone of you made a simple calculation: assuming the towers were make of 111 magically hovering slabs of concrete (111 and not 110 to account for the roof) that start falling without any resistance when the upper one slams into it, the total collapse time is above the measured one.
Don't take my word, pick up your pocket calculator or excel spreadsheet and please, (please) prove me wrong.
Interesting, huh?

Posted by padarala
September 21, 2007 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink

Manhattanites need machine guns for protection from al Queda!

Posted by Dan
September 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink

How long before we hear the argument that 9/11 has changed his views on abortion? "We need as many Americans as possible to fight the terrorists, so we should ban all abortions."

Posted by GBHeron
September 21, 2007 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink

That has to be one of the most disingenous things I've ever heard, even from as nakedly craven a politician as Rudolph Giuliani. Have any of his fellow losers brought up his past support for gun control in the GOP debates?

Posted by Marc
September 21, 2007 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink

Best collection of comments I've read in a long time, thanks to all!

Posted by Squeaky McCrinkle
September 21, 2007 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink

NEVERTHELESS, my friends (and you can laugh all you want to about Rudy), but Rudy Giuliani is the Republican FRONT-RUNNER and well on his way to WINNING the nomination and, maybe, the presidency.

Not everyone seems to know as much about the real Giuliani as we do. Many think Rudy is a hero. Many do not know that Rudy Giuliani NEVER PREVENTED even a single terrorist attack anywhere. They think Giuliani will reach up in the sky and grab the next terrorist-filled airplane (like Superman would) and pull it down out of the sky -- all by himself.

What do you plan to do? Will you write letters to editors? Will you write to the media punks like Chris Matthews, who man-loves Rudy? Will you do everything you can to inform your friends, neighbors and relatives about the truth abut Rudy Giuliani?

Posted by poetry
September 21, 2007 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink

I will poetry...this guy crazy,phony,hyprocritical as he is ,still has teeth and we must take him seriously,and that means challenging every lie from his mouth!

Posted by papagato618
September 22, 2007 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink

We do need more guns - in the hands of true patriots so that we can resist the slow-mo fascist coup in progress. Gee, I bet Rudy never thought of that. But I bet Rudy never thinks very much at all anyway.

What do you call a liberal without a gun? A concentration camp inmate.

Posted by numi
September 22, 2007 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink

I won't vote for a hypocrite!

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