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MoveOn/NY Times Ad Story Descends Into Absurdity
A newspaper is apologizing for an ad-rate error in the MoveOn "Betray Us" controversy — and it isn't The New York Times.
The Minnespolis Star Tribune has now admitted that they charged Republican Senator Norm Coleman too little when he took out a full-page ad bashing the MoveOn piece and attacking Al Franken for not distancing himself from it. The paper charged Coleman only $23,000, when the rate should have been $37,000.
"A new sales rep made a mistake and gave the Coleman campaign a rate from the local retail rate card, rather than the national rate card," said Benjamin Taylor, the paper's senior vice president for communications and marketing. "We only discovered the mistake when the Franken campaign complained."
In order to correct the situation, the paper is refunding Franken's campaign $12,165 from a full-page ad they took out two months ago — less than the rate error in Coleman's case, but adjusted for the different days when their respective spots were printed.















All of this nonsense explains why people are fed up with "politicians in Washington." That elected officials think there ought to be an investigation of the New York Times, which is an unregulated entity that can charge anyone any price it chooses for its product (ad space), is absurd.
September 26, 2007 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Franken has a nice piece in the Strib that explains how stupid all of this is.
http://www.startribune.com/562/story/1445784.html
September 26, 2007 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link eric.
September 26, 2007 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Star Tribune and the NY Times are owned by the same company. Duh.
Bunch of imbeciles running that media joint.
September 26, 2007 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The noise machine just kills me. "Discountratediscountratediscountratediscountrate"
Do you think the Democrats try to do this? Are they any good at it? Does the media just ignore them. Are Democrats just not good and feigning indignance?
September 26, 2007 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent piece by Al Franken. I wish every Dem politician would realize it and say exactly the same thing, instead of allowing themselves to disintegrate into self-parody as hypocrites and spineless weasels.
September 26, 2007 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
From now on can you use the hippy coleman for the stock photo?
http://bravenewfilms.org/pictures/big/2318
September 26, 2007 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
A BONUS for the Newspaper industry! They now have a strong case for charging the full rate-card price on ALL political advertising. Plus the Republicans are simply begging for it! Perhaps this will have an impact on declining ad rates/revenues over the next 5 Quarters. (I do not work for a newspaper, however I am in the advertising business).
September 26, 2007 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The Star Tribune and the NY Times are owned by the same company."
Uh -- No. Not even close.
September 26, 2007 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
here's a better dirty hippy pic of Coleman to use as his head shot: http://cache.wonkette.com/images/thumbs/e9a2b88cb6a33f9dfbab0ed24c658644.jpg
September 26, 2007 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not at all surprised that Norm was for the cut-rate ad price before he was against it. Still too early in the Fall to put away the flip-flops.
September 26, 2007 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
That photo link is a riot! Schwartz's spawn!
How funny. I second that on using this photo from now on. Hey dude, wanna smoke some weed?
September 26, 2007 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ummm, Stanley? Just because the White House and Fox News are owned by the same company doesn't mean that any two newspapers that don't print the RNCC propaganda are all owned by a single source. You just made this up, right?
September 26, 2007 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
HA!
Thanks for the light moment, Josh.
September 26, 2007 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right. They're not owned by the same company. The Strib, actually, is owned by a venture capital firm.
Franken is growing on me. I was not that crazy about him running, but he's very smart and very classy and just able to be above all the politician stuff. His fundraising letter was smart and funny and you just know he wrote it.
I think he'd be a good senator.
September 26, 2007 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ummm, if the blogger who just filed the FEC complaint against Rudy Guliany is correct, both of these guys (Franken and Coleman), are getting an "in-kind contribution" from the paper way North of the amount allowed by law. Franken better have his people check on this...well, and Norm's too.
September 26, 2007 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
MoveOn/NY Times Ad Story Descends Deeper Into Absurdity
Fixed the headline for you.
September 26, 2007 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
The sad thing is I can almost guarantee that some Republican will say the Strib purposefully undercharged Coleman, knowing it would turn into a fiasco like that. After all, they think the Star Tribune is basically a commie rag anyway, so I can see them coming up with something like that. It couldn't have been simple as a new employee's mistake, has to be a conspiracy.
September 26, 2007 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Coleman is an utter idiot, but do not underestimate him. He, with all his charm, is a formidable candidate.
September 26, 2007 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
What kind of animal is that on his head?
September 26, 2007 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Republicans disparaged General Shenseki when he accurately, with 30 years of military service, predicted that several hundred thousand troops would be necessary to invade and occupy Iraq. The Congress dismissed this military hero and embraced the incorrect prediction of the insidious neocon, Paul Wolfowitz with no military experience, who told Congress that “our soldiers would be greeted as liberators and flowers would be thrown to them and revenues from the sale of oil would pay for the rebuilding of Iraq. Wolfowitz was wrong and 3800 Christian soldiers have died, 27,936 have been wounded, Thousand of innocent Iraqis have died or been displaced and our treasury has been depleted and America's credibility and security has been greatly diminished.
Senator John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam war hero, was disparaged by the Swift Boat thugs. Max Cleland, a Vietnam War hero, who lost his legs, was disparaged by the Republicans and John McCain, a Vietnam War hero was disparaged in South Carolina by Republicans.
Where is the outrage by the media and congress for these egregious attacks. Why should Move.On be attacked for challenging General Petraeus when the Republicans have not been held responsible for their attacks.
I would remind Senator Coleman that six million Jews were offered to any country that would take them by Hitler. How could he have the audacity to challenge the right of Move.On to exercise that cherished First Amendment freedom that so many have sacrificed so much?
Chagrined,
September 27, 2007 2:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Republicans disparaged General Shenseki when he accurately, with 30 years of military service, predicted that several hundred thousand troops would be necessary to invade and occupy Iraq. The Congress dismissed this military hero and embraced the incorrect prediction of the insidious neocon, Paul Wolfowitz with no military experience, who told Congress that “our soldiers would be greeted as liberators and flowers would be thrown to them and revenues from the sale of oil would pay for the rebuilding of Iraq. Wolfowitz was wrong and 3800 Christian soldiers have died, 27,936 have been wounded, Thousand of innocent Iraqis have died or been displaced and our treasury has been depleted and America's credibility and security has been greatly diminished.
Senator John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam war hero, was disparaged by the Swift Boat thugs. Max Cleland, a Vietnam War hero, who lost his legs, was disparaged by the Republicans and John McCain, a Vietnam War hero was disparaged in South Carolina by Republicans.
Where is the outrage by the media and congress for these egregious attacks. Why should Move.On be attacked for challenging General Petraeus when the Republicans have not been held responsible for their attacks.
I would remind Senator Coleman that six million Jews were offered to any country that would take them by Hitler. How could he have the audacity to challenge the right of Move.On to exercise that cherished First Amendment freedom that so many have sacrificed so much?
Chagrined,
September 27, 2007 2:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
So maybe the Democrats should offer a resolution condemning the attacks on General Shenseki and apologizing to him?
Congress too has a right to free speech but the condemnation of Moveon was ridiculous.
September 27, 2007 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wolfowitz was wrong and 3800 Christian soldiers have died,
Erm, I'm sure while a huge majority of them were Christian, like the U.S. as a whole, Americans of other religions have died, too.
September 27, 2007 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink