McCain: Webb-Hagel Iraq Proposal Is Unconstitutional
John McCain told CNN yesterday that the Webb-Hagel Amendment — a proposal to limit troops deployments in Iraq by mandating a certain minimum rest time — is unconstitutional. "Where in the Constitution of the United States does it say that the Congress decides how long people will spend on tours of duty and how long they will spend back in the United States?" McCain said. "It's blatantly unconstitutional."
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Dear John,
You'll find the issue is in the same Constitutional article that gives Congress the authority over the the size of the militia and how the US cannot have a standing Army for greater than two years...and all those other inconvenient issues that an all incompassing executive branch doesn't like. Remember, John, Congress did not declare war, therefore the Commander in Chief does not have the powers granted by the Constituion to the President in a case of war.
September 16, 2007 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thankfully Democrats are now in the midst of the primary campaign and none of the candidates can afford backing down which means they'll keep a bold stance on Iraq and drive the caucus towards a real oppositional posture.
www.campaigndiaries.comSeptember 16, 2007 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, this is hardly surprising, coming from the person who thought Moveon.org should be expelled from the country for expressingn an opinion he doesn't agree with....
September 16, 2007 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's obviously never read Article I, Section 8, specifically, which lists the powers of Congress, and includes this clause:
"To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;"
In other words, "Straight Talk" McCain is once again lying.
September 16, 2007 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, Shadow Wolf.
I can't believe this guy would say something so ridiculous.
September 16, 2007 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, Shadow Wolf.
I can't believe this guy would say something so ridiculous.
September 16, 2007 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel sorry for McCain, his loser campaign has earned our pity. But it's hard not to lay in on the guy when he spews such unbelievable bullshit. Good catch, Shadow Wolf.
September 16, 2007 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Constitution does not give the President any more powers "in time of war" than it gives him any other time. There is a single phrase in the Constitution that notes that the military is not independent, but is subordinate to the president, as their commander in chief. That phrase says nothing at all about any other extraordinary powers for the president.
The closest the Constitution comes to giving extraordinary powers is where it gives, not the president, but the Congress, the right to suspend habeus corpus during insurrections, or other civil disturbances - not international wars.
Bush's "extraordinary powers" are a figment of the imagination of the right wing think tanks.
September 16, 2007 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone should bring their pocket U.S. Constitution brochure to McCain and point to the clause in Section 1 Article 8 that reads as follows:
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces
McCain should actually read the U.S. Constitution again, he seems to have forgotten much of it.
September 16, 2007 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
chuckle, missed your post Shadow Wolf.
September 16, 2007 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's also Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7:
"No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law;"
September 16, 2007 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Besides, John, there's nothing in the Constitution either about Terri Schiavo, but that sure didn't stop you and a whole boatload of your compatriots from grandstanding about her for days on end and trying to intervene in a case you had no business in.
September 16, 2007 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clearly, McCain is going for core Bush support, which seems to be very much in love with the idea that the words in the Constitution really don't mean anything.
September 16, 2007 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shorter McCain: How dare our duly elected representative government think it can go around making rules for the president's personal army. Fork over the money and shut up.
September 16, 2007 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ferruge,
Actually Congress was within its power to intrude in the Terri Schiavo case (however ill advised it was to do so on policy grounds). The 14th Amendment requires States to guarantee its citizens due process and equal protection and gives Congress the power to pass laws to enforce the Amendment.
Since Congress's action was grounded on the argument that Florida was denying Schiavo due process, they were allowed to pass a law protecting her 14th Amendment rights.
Just sayin'. :o)
September 17, 2007 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama now gives a weak excuse but at the time he supported intervention by Congress in the Schiavo case stating that there was no problem in granting more process than was due. This meant that Terri's wishes were ignored in favor of her parent's religious beliefs. Obama's instincts regarding personal choice are not sound.
September 17, 2007 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
And some illumination of the provisions of Art. 1, Sec. 8 and 9 quoted above from Federalist 69 (helpfully posted this morning at Balkinization):
The President is to be commander-in-chief of the army and navy of the United States. In this respect his authority would be nominally the same with that of the king of Great Britain, but in substance much inferior to it. It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces, as first General and admiral of the Confederacy; while that of the British king extends to the DECLARING of war and to the RAISING and REGULATING of fleets and armies, all which, by the Constitution under consideration, would appertain to the legislature.
September 17, 2007 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain the great constitutional scholar.
Maybe he might also notice that NOWHERE in the Constitution does it say that the State of Arizona can send a jackass to the Senate. In fact, the State of Arizona isn't even *mentioned* in the Constitution! So there!
September 17, 2007 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain obviously needs a Con Law advisor for his campaign. Actually, I think he DOES know better, but he is quite aware that the knuckle-draggers to whom he must pander, DO NOT know better. To them, Art. II is all that matters and it literally trumps everything else.
September 17, 2007 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is technically, narrowly correct. When McCain says it is unconstitutional what he actually means is that the current SCOTUS will find it unConstitutional on whatever grounds Dick Cheney says it is because the current SCOTUS is just as much a political arm of the Bush Administration as the DOJ and anything that impinges on the wishes of the Grand and Supremely Exalted Unitary Executive (and his pals)in the execution of whatever powers he says he has is prima facia "unConstitutional" in that sense.
September 17, 2007 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink