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Big Fire Fighters Union Backs ... Chris Dodd
Ben Smith reports that the International Association of Firefighters has decided to endorse Chris Dodd for president, rather than one of the current frontrunners. Dodd authored the 2000 FIRE Act, channeling federal money to local fire departments. This is definitely a major coup for the Dodd campaign's hopes of moving up into the first tier.

Report: Obama Considered Voting For Roberts — Ultimately Didn't, Over Politics
A new Washington Post feature story on Pete Rouse, a longtime Washington hand who became Barack Obama's chief of staff in 2005, contains this interesting piece of information: Obama was strongly considering voting to confirm John Roberts as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. And then, the paper reports, Rouse reminded him just what the political ramifications of such a decision would be:

And then Rouse, his chief of staff, spoke up. This was no Harvard moot-court exercise, he said. If Obama voted for Roberts, Rouse told him, people would remind him of that every time the Supreme Court issued another conservative ruling, something that could cripple a future presidential run. Obama took it in. And when the roll was called, he voted no.

Edwards Says Cabinet Would Include Republicans
Sounding a conciliatory note, John Edwards told a New Hampshire crowd that the prospective cabinet he has "already made" would include Republicans and that he would work with the other side "in a principled way." Edwards declined to name his hypothetical Republican cabinet members for now in order to prevent hurt feelings, telling an interviewer "I don't want people who are not chosen...I don't think it's fair to them."

Edwards Criticizes Clinton's Lobbyist Ties At Cancer Forum
John Edwards derided Hillary Clinton for accepting contributions from health care groups at the Democratic forum on cancer today in Iowa. Clinton defended her decision by pointing to her record on health care, which includes her famous effort to create a national healthcare system in the early nineties. "I believe in working with everybody and being influenced by nobody," she said of her relationship with lobbyists. Edwards countered that special interests should be left out of the debate: "I think if you give the drug companies, insurance companies and their lobbyists a seat at the table," he warned the audience, "they'll eat all the food."

Bill Clinton Defends 1990's Health Care Drive
In an upcoming book on philanthropy, entitled Giving, defended the failed 1993-94 health care initiative, in which Hillary Clinton was deeply involved, saying the effort was "killed by politics, not the plan's particulars." Furthermore, the former president writes, "Since 2000, all the cost and coverage problems have worsened," meaning the country may be ready now for a major overhaul of the health care system.

Rudy Defends Record On Illegal Immigration
At an Iowa campaign stop, Rudy Giuliani defended his policy of not actively enforcing immigration laws when he was mayor of New York City. "I reduced crime, created more security. I created a much greater increase in quality of life than anybody in America in the 1990s," Giuliani said, before further into just why he felt he had to look the other way on immigration law. "If you don’t allow illegal immigrants to report crimes and the federal government has let 400,000 illegal immigrants in your city, you’re not going to be able to reduce crime for everyone else."

Florida Governor Standing Firm On Primary
Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL) is refusing to back down from his state's January 29 primary date, despite threats by the national parties to strip some or even all delegates from the state. "It's important to keep the primary right where it is. I think Florida being in the forefront is exactly what we need to do." Crist also communicated his thoughts about the national parties' threats: "I think it's silly. It is. What matters is people. The people's vote, the people's will is what these candidates care about."


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Obama's statement at the time of Roberts's confirmation is here.

It's pretty long, tough to find a good quote to sum it up, but goes into great lengths about the difficulty behind the decision to vote against.

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Glad to hear Senator Dodd has received an endorsement from a major union. I, for one, am not happy with front runners Hillary and Obama. The debate between these two seems to have veered off into who can sound most like the Republicans. There are a lot of issues that need careful scrutiny:

1. The use of torture, unconstitutional spying and wiretapping, wholesale abandonment of basic constitutional principles in the pursuit of the "war on terrorism"

2. The constant drumbeat for an attack on Iran.

3. The wisdom of our overly hostile and simple-minded use of military power to intimidate and destroy countries in the middle east without any increase in our own security.

4. The lack of sane energy and transportation policies.

5. A criminal health care system (see Sicko if you don't believe the current system is criminal)

It would appear that it is the second-tier candidates who are seriously addressing the real issues facing the country, while the leading candidates are burying them or side-stepping them.

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Republicans in the cabinet? Some of us are going to lose our enthusiasm for John Edwards if he makes any more moves like that.

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Seriously, Republicans in the cabinet? Why is it only the Democrats feel pressure to talk about their bipartisan bona fides?

And I can't be the only one who thinks one of the benefits of voting for a Democrat in 2008 is that I won't have Republicans in the cabinet. Not that watching Rumsfeld, Gonzales, et al, trash the Constitution and the civil service hasn't been fun.

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Let's see. John Warner for Secretary of Defense? Colin Powell for State?

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Good grief. After watching Republicans run the Executive Branch departments into the ground for the last seven years, why on God's green earth would we want to appoint more of them?

Isn't the whole point of trying to elect a Democratic President so that we don't have Republican cronies in the Executive Branch and so that we don't have to be talked into voting against John Roberts?

What is the matter with these candidates?

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TPM seems to me to be against Obama. You summary of the Post piece is wrong. shame on you.

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WTF is wrong with Edwards? Is Edwards' campaign being run by a combo of Dukakis/Dean graduates? This is enough to turn me off voting for Edwards and it really is beginning to make me wonder if Edwards could even win the general.

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Cpt Nemo, @7:46,

I think it's probable that the second tier candidates feel freer to say what they really think *because* their chances for nomination are slight; they have less to lose. Hopefully, they'll at least serve as prods to the first tier, not to stray too far right.

Aside. If we can't have htreaded comments, allowing one to respond directly to someone's comment, can we at least have numbers to refer to? Trying to find and identfy someone's posting just by the time is a nuisance.

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I actually read the whole story on www.barackobama.com and all I can say is that the Obama piece you have here is so misconstrued how shameful, just another hidden hit piece to sway public opinion.

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Wow, you all are attacking these candidates for including Republicans in the cabinet.
Hasn't that been the main problem these past 6-7 years???
We've had a president who has only surrounded himself with people who think JUST like him.

We might not agree w/ all the rePUGlicans, but we can work w/ the true REPUBLICANS.

Don't forget, Abraham Lincoln was a republican.

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Disappointing! It is not usually TPM's styple to cherry-pick a statement and spin a false story from it. And TPM's readers are usually too informed to fall for it.

btw..I believe Lincoln put his opponents in his cabinet. This president's habit of surrounding himself with his personal 'yes-men' - yeah, that worked real well.

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The best part of this story in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/26/AR2007082601446_3.html?referrer=emailarticle

is the following.


"Pete knows that when you're first elected to the
Senate, you've got to pay your dues, visit with senior
senators and deliver for your home state," said Chris
Lu, Obama's legislative director. "But Pete recognized
that Obama's appeal was that he was an outsider and
would never be a typical senator, so Pete helped Obama
find the delicate balance between being a
rank-and-file senator and high-profile national
figure."

Yes Barack is not and will never be a washington
insider even when he is elected as president he will
be just a man of the people

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The best part of this story in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/26/AR2007082601446_3.html?referrer=emailarticle

is the following.


"Pete knows that when you're first elected to the
Senate, you've got to pay your dues, visit with senior
senators and deliver for your home state," said Chris
Lu, Obama's legislative director. "But Pete recognized
that Obama's appeal was that he was an outsider and
would never be a typical senator, so Pete helped Obama
find the delicate balance between being a
rank-and-file senator and high-profile national
figure."

Yes Barack is not and will never be a washington
insider even when he is elected as president he will
be just a man of the people

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Frankly, when I read the WaPo story yesterday, I got the distinct impression that the reporter already had his narrative fixed in his mind way before he gathered any facts and that he thus did whatever was necessary to the facts he gathered to preserve his precious narrative.

Every source of data not strained through the CW filter indicates that Obama is a guy who listens to a lot of people, considers their advice judiciously and then makes his own decision. However, the cult of savviness that drives the Beltway CW dictates that every successful politician is really just a sockpuppet for some savvy insider operative. In obedience to that CW, the WaPo's reporter made up his mind beforehand that Pete Rouse, an "insider's insider" was THE guy behind all of Obama's really important decisions.

That's the kind of writing that gets a guy to the top of his profession these days.

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Good Judgement Senator Obama! The people got your back!!

Obama 08!

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Just what we need. Another reason for Chris Dodd to stick around.

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Maybe it's a Republican like "Richard Clarke." You do know there would be Republicans in any Democratic cabinet, don't you? No doubt several of the joint chiefs of staff would probably be Republicans, as well.

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