golly, if one was a suspicious type, one would think this was highly orchestrated p.r. move to hoodwink those 'low info' voters and the cable news chattermonkeys. what's that word josh likes to use -- oh yeah, 'bamboozle' the yokels.

The White House "confrontation" was a sham. It stunk from the beginning, and it stinks now. It's easy for Congressmen from my home state of Pennsylvania -- which has lost 162 soldiers in Iraq -- to pretend they're talking tough. But they don't really want to leave Iraq. They don't really want to defy Bush.

Will the media pick up on the fact that all of those so-called maverick, moderate Republicans voted Iraq Forever? I won't hold my breath.

Will the media pick up on the fact that all of those so-called maverick, moderate Republicans voted Iraq Forever?

No more than it will that Democratic senators like Carl Levin, Dick Durbin and Barack Obama are obstacles to ending the occupation.

Oddly, only Hillary seems to be gaining recognition for her pro-war stance. Masterful politician you think?

Best, Terry

For me, this just connects in with the Washington Post article today written by Richard Perle.

If you could read the remarks made to the Washington Post comments forum, you would see that almost all Americans are onto the Bush administration scams including the Iraq war. But, you can bet that there will be no retraction nor criticism by the Washington Post to Perle's comments.

Congress is no help.

The democrats, tho criticle of the Iraq war, are fighting among themselves as to how to get out and how to stay in Iraq at the same time. A few republicans the same way.

It's the oil.

In the meantime, American soldiers die, more innocent Iraqis die, and now and then a few terrorist die - but not enough to wipe the terrorism out. Which will not change until the US leaves Iraq.

It will literally take Americans in the streets to change this, and that's not going to happen. They are too well trainned to watch sports and television. And little by little, with the help of the manin stream media, including the Washington Post, their rights are slowly removed. They get used to it, and then a few more are removed....

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

another Republican photo shoot protest for their next election campaign,...."See i protested against the president, I even have a picture and a newspaper clipping to prove it".......what independent thinkers these moderates are,......if they don't believe that the war should be tied to Progress (aka: benchmarks) then no progress will be made,...for christ's sake Gen. Patraeus is preaching to his soldiers not to act like criminals. It obvious, that at the end of the day, these politicians are as 2 faced as it gets and they're just trying to save their own ass in 2008.

I wonder who her mentor was? I think the simple truth is most American voters don't mind that we knocked Iraq down; they're just sick and tired of trying to build it back up. Can you imagine the difference in our image among friends and enemies if we had turned Saddam over to the Shiites and left Iraq as soon as we captured him. I wonder if that was the last good exit from the Occupation Express, or if another one will come along.

It's called Gramm-standing: Being publicly for something popular with their voters, then voting against it after being lobbied by the campaign contributors or party bosses.
For it before he was against it. That line was used effectively against John Kerry in 2004. Hold these guys feet to the fire about this.
They're covering their asses for 2008.

It's not about principle for them, it's about self-preservation.

The reed that bends in the wind does not break.
Well, unless there's a tornado or hurricane.

This *parade* of Repugs walzting into Bush to state the obvious was merely a Dog and Pony show meant demonstrate their unctuous concern to their constituents with the effect that it may get Bush to do something that would have a positive outcome and make them look good as true Repugnicons. Having Boehner on the list should have been the first clue. You cant trust a Repug no matter how much smoke they blow about their concerns. They all roll over in the end eventually and tote WH water. Also known as the Arlen Specter Republican.

Well, clearly all this tells us is that the GOP members of Congress are still scared to death of the loony base (the delusional and paranoid crazies who don't believe in evolution, global warming, a woman's right to her own body, secular government, etc.) to whom they've handed the keys of the Party.

Instead of confronting this war based on principle, publicly in the Congress, by doing the clear will of the public that put them there, they choose to "courageously" "confront" the President in private - by whining about the state of the Party, rather than the state of ... the fucking country.

This GOP is clearly the most cowardly, cynical, hypocritical, dishonest, traitorous group of scum ever inflicted on this country.

I'm sure they all were against torture, too, before they voted for it. Weasels, the lot of them. But if the voters don't hold them to account, then are they really guilty of being flip-floppers? Well, yes, I guess they are.