think he's less electable than mccain? I tend to think ol' straight talk is the one who can't win the general...

Right wing rules:

1. Right wingers are never wrong.

2. If you find someone wrong, refer to #1.

It doesn't take much imagination to figure what the response would have been had this comment been made by any Democrat in last night's debate.

Maybe sentient people, like you and I and regular posters here, realize that the man is nothing but a stuffed shirt reading winger talking points off of a script, but thus far the man appears to have the greatest fund-raising capacity of the rest of the GOP field. So, unfortunately, he must be taken seriously.

The Dems SHOULD be HAMMERING him as we speak.

IOKIYAR

Our obligation is to define the liberty of all, not to mandate our own moral code. -- SCOTUS that was...

"The Dems SHOULD be HAMMERING him as we speak."

Maybe. On the other hand, maybe it's good strategy to keep the attention focused on McCain's failing campaign. McCain is a fairly easy target, so why not take him down and get him out of the way early? There's plenty of time to deal with Mitt.

It's my understanding that Mitt has already tapped many of his big donors for the maximum donation. Let's see how his fund-raising goes over the next couple of quarters.

Why is the media silent? Because all you guys who have insisted that the horrible state of the media was due to access or sucking up to power were wrong. As I've always said: wait until the Democrats come to power again -- the media will party like it's 1994.

As Yglesias once said, no accountability for conservatives, no jobs for liberals. Heated, hyperbolic, partisan rhetoric is the the most sought after attributes in punditry for conservatives. "Liberals" are meant to demonstrate their objectivity by politely nodding in agreement with this heated rhetoric, denouncing the "same" heated rhetoric on the left that they won't allow on their show (they do have standards, after all), and keeping the liberal views they have under wraps.

Now that Democrats are back in power, it's the same baseless sliming and character assassination of the Clinton years, and blind defense of conservative malfeasance, no matter how unpopular. And if they do get caught doing something horrendous, and the crime is so obvious they can't deny it anymore, then they'll finally mention the story -- by accusing the Democrats of doing the same, thus, appearing to be even-handed.

In every case, across the board, no matter who is in power, the media for the last decade and a half has been intentionally, willfully, joyfully pushing GOP slander without facts or rebuttal, covering up GOP crimes without presenting the charges or evidence, and embraced every extremist, racist, slanderous thing these people have ever said, from calls to assassination and ethnic cleansing to torture and internment, while breaking out the vapors any time Harry Reid speaks the truth.

Shills, not suck ups.

Besides the obvious, that the news is Biased as hell for Repubs due to the ownership,.....tv pundits work the democrats over every minor detail and distort their sound clips,....where as Republicans usually get a free pass. That's exactly how we got into this war,...and that's why Democrats have been afraid to speak out their hearts and minds to not look bad and unpatriotic,...but that is changing(longtime coming),....I think the Republicans are scared that this next election will be a blowout,...they risk having 60 democratic votes in the senate and a democratic president,....that's why their attacking dems and ignoring repubs. They're on a sinking ship,...and the president is only trying to delay this ship from sinking past 2008. I must add, Barrack is who they're afraid of most,...his speeches and demeanour strike a serious chord, even to their middle of the road base because he's been right on Iraq from day 1.

Is King Karl thinking about joining the Romney campaign team?

Ron Byers

Osama bin Laden killed 3,000 people and took down the WTC and four airliners in a cowardly attack on this country.

I want his fucking head on a platter. The fact that he is still alive and on the run five years after Bush let him escape at Tora Bora while we spin our wheels in Iraq, where Osama is definitely NOT hiding, makes the US look weak and pitiful.

The next president should make it a priority to catch OBL once the Iraq mess is dealt with. That one act alone would do more than anything else to demolish the cult of Bush.

What could the Bush dead-enders say about W if Hillary or Obama caught OBL where Bush couldn't? They would have to either admit Bush was a disaster, or shut the fuck up forever out of shame and humiliation.

Romney: Governor Bob Forehead.

The Wingers have to diminish the importance of bin Laden because their lord and savior George Bush allowed bin Laden to escape. By diminishing his importance, they are mitigating Bush's plunder.

I realize that this will sound overly idealistic, but I am actually looking forward to a time when our foreign policy is based on trying to attain international stability and ending global poverty rather than on domestic politics.

Now, this doesn't mean that we shouldn't go after Bin Laden, but let's do it to reduce terrorism and let history take care of making Bush look incompetent.

Good catch.

Why settle for a rolled up newspaper? How about being Extraordinarily Rendered? (Hey, they came up with in the first place.)