McCain: Failure Czar v2.0

one must not criticize a failed strategy; it only emboldens the enemy.

Yeah that #4 line is the icing on the cake huh? It's a 3 parter I think.

First, in between the "Democrats [...] who voted" he forgot to say "that this current administration lied to with doctored intelligence". That seems like a bit more than another example of "misspeaking" doesn't it? Oh John you're such a straight-talker! *wink-wink*

Second, isn't it convienient that now that we all recognize that the LAST plan was a failure now we all need to recognize that THIS plan is the RIGHT one. Yes indeed, we'll just take your WORD on that one. And the reconstruction of Iraq PROVES you all know how to pick the "right people for the job".

Third, in terms of reality I'm pretty sure that most Americans really want our troops home - now. That being the case it would appear that the Democrats really did offer a alternative strategy.

/sigh...

If the U.S. is defeated in Iraq, it will be b/c of Bush's "failed strategy," and it will most certainly not be b/c of the Dems passage of the funding bill with benchmarks for the Iraqi gov't in order to receive further support.

McCain is on the Bush bandwagon, supporting more of the same failed strategy of war without end, with no accountability for failure, no matter what the cost is to the U.S.

I'm particularly fond of the idiotic assumption contained in this statement:

"Before I left for Iraq, I watched with regret as the House of Representatives voted to deny our troops the support necessary to carry out their new mission."

Yeah. It's the troops' mission now. Not Bush's. Not Cheney's. Not Gates'. Not Patraeus'. And certainly not anything the sovereign nation of Iraq came up with. Nope, it's the troops' mission. And it's NEW. Brand spankin' new. Full of hope and promise. And those damn Democrats aren't giving it a chance. JUST WHEN THINGS WERE FINALLY STARTING TO GET BETTER.

Damn Democrats. And you know what the worst part is? Those damn American voters put them up to it.

It is strange that none of the Republicans seem willing to say what a "victory" would consist of. Wouldn't a "victory" be removing our military from Iraq and letting the Iraqis govern themselves as they wish? That's my definition. With that, both the Iraqis and the Americans win - we call that a win-win strategy.

Of course, the last I heard, Congress is passing a funding bill to provide the troops in Iraq with what they need PLUS what they want - a fast track to return home on.

Hoppy in Sacramento

The most wonderful thing is watching the Wingnut, including the "straight talk express" variety, quiver with anger because Americans have stopped listening to them. We are a pragmatic people. Zealots don't play well over time. Sayonara Falwell's boot-licker.

This is Stockholm Syndrom, GOP style. The North Vietnamese couldn't break him, but the GOP base did it. It's not pretty to watch an American hero being psychologically waterboarded.

But the GOP base is enjoying it. They have their way with him, but they'll never vote for him.

This is gonna be his legacy, not his heroism.

Sad.

Ha ha.

McCain's an idiot.

Muqtada al Sadr (or someone like him) is eventually going to end up running Iraq. Al Sadr has realized that the only way to end the sectarian bloodletting is to unite the Iraqis against a common enemy. And that enemy is us. Hitler had his Jews. Bush had his "Shadowy Terrorist Network". And Al Sadr and Bin Laden have us.

The Republicans can define victory any way they like. Iraq is destined to become a theocracy--not a democracy. And until that happens, the fighting will never end.

Muqtada al Sadr (or someone like him) is eventually going to end up running Iraq.

I think you're right. Iraq is likely to become another Shiite theocracy. And what an awful thing for Iraq, it's women (who will face honor killings, arranged marriages, restrictions in their rights, forced wearing of hijab, etc.), its Sunnis (who will be massacred), its Kurds (who, at best, will live in some uneasy quasi-independence, perpetually threatened by Iran, Iraq, and Turkey), the U.S. (humiliated) and the world (see the above, plus, an even less stable Middle East, with growing pressure for a widespread Sunni-Shiia conflict).

It sure would be nice if this scenario were preventable.

Democrats need to take this guy apart.

Why do you think anyone can destroy McCain more thoroughly than he is doing it to himself?

Very sad I think.

Whatever - it's all over for John McCain.

Best, Terry

McCain, following the lead of campaign adviser Mark McKinnon, looked like an inept high school actor, fumbling someone else's speech, struggling to follow the teleprompter. He has become such a pathetic,desperate figure, making blunder after blunder, becoming a laughing stock as well as an incoherent fool. McKinnon is as responsible for this painful destruction as McCain himself. Someone has to step in and end this ridiculous circle jerk of a campaign. This is embarrassing. McCain is making a mockery out of the American political process. This same process will eliminate McCain ,hopefully sooner than later. The end of McCain will be the complete humiliation of a good man led astray by an insatiable quest for presidential power and political glory. Go home John, it really is time.

McCain an American hero? He was a war criminal.

~

I somehow got myself to sit through the entire CSPAN segment of McCain's "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" speech...

I have always prided myself for attempting to be an open minded pragmatist. I do try as hard as possible to look at all perspectives and evaluate the options that the various perspectives may provide. But when I attempt to deal with anything that comes out of McCain's pie-hole, no matter how hard I try to see this from his point of view, I can't seem to negotiate the contortions it takes to get my noggin that far up my asteroid orifice... while singing:

Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly.
Birds fly over the rainbow.
Why then, oh why can't I?

~OGD~

This seems to come out of the Kissinger, on of McCain's supporters, playbook. No matter how stupid the policy, no matter how ill considered or badly run the U.S. must see out the policy for time immemorial if necessary.

Daniel A. Greenbaum