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Poll: 58% Think Attorney Purge Was Politically Motivated
A sizeable majority thinks the Attorney Purge was politically motivated -- and more people think Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should resign than think he should stay, a new poll finds.
The new survey by Newsweek finds that a solid 58% think the firing of U.S. Attorneys was "politically motivated," while only 15% think it wasn't. Meanwhile, 35% think Gonzales should resign, and 32% think he shouldn't.
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Bush will say that he doesn't listen to "focus groups", the way he did when hundreds of thousands of people protested against the start of the Iraq war 4 long years ago.
Actually, focus groups are small numbers of people not hundreds of thousandswho express their opinions. It seems that the focus groups, small numbers of people, that he does listen to are AIPAC, CPAC, and AEI, 'cause they tell him what he wants to hear.
March 17, 2007 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Which attorney purge are we talking about here -- the 8 recently let go or the 95 that Clinton fired, when he took office?
March 17, 2007 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought there were only 93 in all. Where does the number 95 come from? And, any of the Clinton replacements would have had to go through Senate confirmation. That's the step Adolf Bush wanted to avoid, thereby allowing political-hack, douche bags to be appointed like the clown Rove wanted and got to be installed in Arkansas. It's the lack of accountability they want and need. Because, well, most of the people Bush wants are unqualified except for total loyality to the dear leader. Speak truth to power? What the hell is that?
March 17, 2007 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush also replaced all the Clinton appointees when he came in. That's not the issue.
March 17, 2007 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, all 93 were replaced when Bush took office, just as Clinton did at the beginning of his presidency.
What makes Bush unprecedented in firing these 8 is that they are all his appointees to begin with. Never before in history has a President fired 8 of his own appointees during the middle of his term.
March 17, 2007 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
are you sure on this, white? Articles I've read say that cleaning house was discussed but they never actually did it and left some attorneys that didn't leave in place.
Maybe this is something -- maybe it's nothing at all. Maybe several of these attorneys needed to be fired. When you've got a Democratic Congressman caught with $ 90,000 in his freezer and no indictment almost a year later, somebody should be held accountable. Gonzalez has said mistakes were made, so there must be some fire in the smoke, but even if he goes down over this -- who gains? Bush is already a dead man walking. He can't sink any lower in terms of influence.
Democrats need to be laying the groundwork for more gains in the next election and a lot of hearings and investigations detract from the mission. We've got urgent issues of energy, immigration, enviornment to focus on, and that's what the American people want -- not another Whitewater Congress.
March 17, 2007 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
So what it was "politically motivated", these folks serve at the "pleasure of the President". H-E-L-L-O!
March 17, 2007 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Congress didn't like the way the law was changed to avoid confirmation by the Senate. And it seems the "reasons" for the firing have changed around a bit from Day 1.
March 17, 2007 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
On March 17, 2007 - 1:08pm az5762 said:
I thought there were only 93 in all. Where does the number 95 come from?
There are only 93 in all. But Clinton was such a bad, mean dog, that he created another 2, just so he could fire them. Ask any r.w. nut
March 18, 2007 12:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Democrats need to be laying the groundwork for more gains in the next election and a lot of hearings and investigations detract from the mission. We've got urgent issues of energy, immigration, enviornment to focus on, and that's what the American people want -- not another Whitewater Congress."
I happen be be enjoying the oversite. Soooo.... congress isn't supposed to be doing this?
Lets make a deal with the republic party. hehe Don't veto, and let us get something done, and we will focus our energy on that. Until then, hearings! What do you think about that?
March 18, 2007 12:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
In an ideal world, maybe that would happen. But I can assure you the Republican party, the one's who just lost power, the ones who when they had power,told the Democrats to go fly a kite, because it was going to be their way or the highway.
The Republican party that calculated, and schemed, crying about lies, and how moral they would be, how they would bring accountabilty back to the Whitehouse.
The very day Bill Clinton to office. With how many dollars and time and investigations. White Water, murders in Arkansas, Sex.
No it's like the saying goes "Paybacks are a bit**.
It's like one of our poster on TPM used to say, you better keeep your knee in their throat, and make sure they can't get up.
This next election, is beginning to look like, another dirty tricks, win at all costs.
What do you think the chances are that the Republicans will have their lacky's, who were recently appointed as US attorneys, are going after DEMOCRATS in an attempt to smear them at election time?
The Democrats need to expose the enemies of the Constitution, trumped up wars. katrina, Walter Reed, illegal wiretapping, of God know's who, maybe political opponents?
No you don't make deals with people with hands as dirty as the Republicans, you never know, what the hand behind the back has in it, besides an envelope containing K street money.
March 18, 2007 3:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Duplicate
March 18, 2007 4:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the crux of the issue, as Josh Marshall and Greg Sargent and other have pointed out, is why the prosecutors were fired.
U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President, and the President certainly could replace them for whatever reason they so chose. As the former U.S. Attorney from Arkansas, Bud Cummins (who was replaced by a former aide to Karl Rove), said earlier, being replaced because the administration wants to give a favored attorney more experience is an acceptable reason to him.
As he said, it's a political appointment. A U.S. Attorney could conceivably be fired for not participating in "red tie Tuesdays". It would be seen as unprofessional, but completely within the rules.
Cummins originally tried to avoid the fray, but after receiving a message from the Justice Department he found "threatening" and once his job performance was called into question, he spoke up.
However, there is a growing body of evidence that the firings were driven by the fact that the attorney's were not towing the party line when enacting their legal duties. That, however, is unethical and potentially illegal.
One of the attorneys said the phone calls some of them received after being subpoenaed may verge into the territory of obstruction.
The question has never been can the President hire and fire USAs at will, though many GOP talking heads would like to frame it that way, but why and what were they trying to cover up?
Why did Justice Department officials potentially mislead Congress if the matter was pro-forma?
And how is it that this administration, renowned for its tight ship, has so many deputies that free-lance in setting major policy?
March 18, 2007 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Highly likely. Minnesota has one of these recent US Atty's with a metoric rise, and no real court room experience. She is a female minority and I do beleive that MN, is going to be the election and voter fraud state for 2008, as FL and OH were in 2000 and 2004, respectively. MN still allows same day voter registration making it a very easy target for the GOP. The GOP national convention is being held there. Additionally, that weasel Norm Coleman that replaced Wellstone is running for re-election.
We can expect the same GOP voter shenanigians in OR, WA, CA, NM, and especially ARK
The US attorney in ARK is Rove's 'boy' and he has previously purged voter rolls and particularly minorities from the rolls. Griffin should be under indictment himself.
March 18, 2007 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
They only 'free-lance' after receiving the marching orders. Rove was clear about what to do. So the minions set about doing it. Knowing Rove and no one else would care HOW it was done, and that no one was going to ask questions. It is clear this was SOP for this crew when it came to political gamesmanship, the only question they had was what would Rove like to see happen. And Rove was clear, fire them all. Gonzales bucked that as disruptive. Then they came up with the list, even adding Iglesias to the list after the complaint by Domenici...what the 'free lancers' do is execute the plan, Rove is the architect, as always.
March 18, 2007 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rove said it was discussed and not all were replaced, articles say they made a clean sweep, but just not in one fell swoop at the beginning of GWBushs administration.
What this administration did was purge their own appointees. That is unprecedented.
March 18, 2007 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fire the lot of em....starting with 'conflict of interest' Alberto, and work up/down/sideways from there...
March 18, 2007 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's like a snake, you can cut off the tail, but the head can still bite.
March 18, 2007 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink