Reid Adviser: Dems Likely To Fall Short In Tomorrow's Vote
Tomorrow the Senate will vote on whether to allow the same simple anti-escalation resolution that passed the House today to go to the Senate floor -- but a key adviser to Dem Senate leader Harry Reid says that Dems probably don't have the votes to make this happen.
Reid spokesman Jim Manley tells Election Central that he thinks cloture will garner a Senate vote in the low to mid 50s -- well short of the magic number of 60. Upshot: The Senate may end up failing to do what the House did today -- that is, to have a straight yes-or-no vote on whether it supports escalation. It would be the second time in a row that the Senate has failed to bring a vote on the "surge" to the floor.
"It's difficult to imagine that we're going to get the 60 votes necessary to block a Republican filibuster," Manley says. "But we're hoping to get as strong a majority as possible."
Dems need 11 Republicans to join with them to reach 60. Election Central today was only able to confirm that four GOP Senators -- Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, John Warner and Gordon Smith -- will vote to allow the resolution to go to the floor.
Asked if he was simply trying to lower expectations in advance of the vote, Manley said that his reading was a straightforward one. "They've clearly decided they can take a hit from the headlines and not pay long term damage," he said.
Of course, Dem leaders may be calculating that there's an upside in losing tomorrow -- because it gives them more ammo to paint Republicans as too fearful to debate escalation in the Senate.
As one source close to Reid puts it, "After these guys cast the vote, they're gonna have to go back to their home states and justify their votes. It's a politically perilous place for them to be. They're saying the Senate shouldn't even have this debate. I think that's an untenable position."
Meanwhile, a source in GOP Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's office tells us that he too is confident that Dems don't have the vote to pass the measure.
Tune in tomorrow...















In which case, I can express confidence that the GOP Senate caucus will get its asses kicked during the recess.
February 16, 2007 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let them filibuster! What a spectacle that would be, "senate mired down by GOP filibuster against debate of escalation".
February 16, 2007 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man, they can't even do a NON-BINDING resolution. How fricking sad.
Dems need to tie this around their necks. Gloves off: videos of caskets. Interviews with soldiers coming back talking about their own frustration. Clippings of the Taliban taking back large areas of Afghanistan while we're fighting no enemy in Iraq.
Don't Republicans realize that the enemy is emboldened by our continued reluctance to actually engage them? This is what gave Osama bin Laden the courage to attack us in the first place--an inept leadership and reluctant-to-engage military.
February 16, 2007 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
This diary on dailykos accurately (I'm pretty sure) explains why the Republicans would not actually ever have to engage in a traditional "read the phonebook" style filibuster.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/25/16326/2182
It's because of changes in Senate rules, and the fact that the famous filibusters of Strom Thurmond were actually filibusters of the cloture vote. If there aren't enough votes to break cloture, a filibuster is unnecessary, because the votes would just keep being held, and the Republicans would just keep voting against it, without having to remain on the Senate floor.
February 16, 2007 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
1 more GOP vote in favor of the resolution: Hagel said he'd vote for cloture on the PBS NewsHour tonight.
Franken announced this week he's running against Coleman next year. How many other GOP senators with expiring terms already have opponents? There are 22. Time to turn up the heat.
February 16, 2007 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which is I HOPE the plan Reid had in mind.
February 16, 2007 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
21
21 little senators
Let's wait for the actual vote.
Sununu is in a tough spot as well. And, imo, they're all at risk. If I were moveon, I'd be running radio ads in Fairbanks, Juneau and Anchorage right now. They've gotta be cheap, and Ted Stevens has sounded like an idiot.
Tie the war to him as well, while being out of the majority cuts his pork appeal.
I think he could be had by a tester type.
February 17, 2007 1:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gut feeling is that they will get the 60 votes and even more. What's in it for any Republican Senator at risk to follow Bush and McConnell over a cliff?
February 17, 2007 3:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wasn't it the members of the Republic Party that used to demand an "up or down" vote?
February 17, 2007 4:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where but in the United States Senate can a minority of the voters quash even the discussion of such an important issue that daily takes the lives of Americas sons and daughters in uniform and continues the ghastly disgraceful invasion of Iraq.
From the Huffington Post:
The vote was 56-34. That was four short of the 60 needed to advance the measure, which is identical to a nonbinding resolution that Democrats pushed through the House on Friday.
February 17, 2007 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink