Wierd phrasing in the article:

"The right-wing blogosphere has gotten its scalps -- John Edwards has fired the two controversial bloggers he recently hired to do liberal blogger outreach, Salon has learned.

Speculation from sources that the two bloggers might be rehired was bolstered by Jennifer Palmieri, a spokeswoman for the Edwards campaign, who said in an e-mail that she would "caution [Salon] against reporting that they have been fired. We will have something to say later."

So Salon is reporting they were hired, fired, and rehired?

If true, Edwards has lost my vote. Anyone who'd fold on something this lame is not going to be up to the challenge of fighting hard in 2008.

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Jeff Fecke
http://www.moderateleft.com

If it is true, I am disappointed with Mr. Edwards. Considering that it may have been politically expedient to have fired these bloggers, I still am sorry to have yet another politician bow to a right-wing swift-boating.

Speaking of whom, Bill Donohue has also gone after Madonna for her stage shows. He's a major blowhard. Edwards better be careful in his response or else he's going to embolden these guys, which is the last thing you want to do in this situation.

How about: My campaign workers were speaking for themselves and themselves only on their personal blogs, and I do not agree with or condone such comments. However, I recognize and appreciate that they care very deeply about the issues facing America today, even if their passion has led to some perhaps overly emotional expressions in the past. I think we've all said or typed some things in the heat of the moment that we've later come to regret.

Jesus, and Donahue has the nerve to accuse anyone else of bigotry?  And people actually listen to him?

This country is in deep doo-doo. 

I can hear the netroots support crumbling even as we speak...

Dumb move, Sen. Edwards.

And, "bloggers" is still a very dirty word. If campaigns are going to take them on, then they need to be prepared for the inevitable. Everyone of us here has everything we've ever "said" online, easily accessible, one google away.

It's going to come back. If you're not going to stand by your staff, don't hire them.

Dissent Protects Democracy.

I hope it isn't the case that Michelle Malkin and Bill Donahue can influence major Democratic presidential campaign decisions. No judgment without more information, but... John... you're supposed to listen to our side, not their side.

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For fuck's sake. I can't imagine how much more intollerable and insane Malkin will be if her shrieking manages to influence the Edwards campaign. Perhaps Dems really are weak, because every time one of them gets swiftboated he or she just stands there blinking, or ultimately caves to the manufactured "outrage."

Doesn't Edwards know the Malkins and Riehls of the moron-o-sphere are little more than running punchlines?

It's getting to the point where the wingers will find anything and blow it up to be the biggest afront ever perpetrated on America, and Dems will bow down and apologize.

Barf.

as a lamont supporter in ct, this sounds oddly, sadly, familiar: enthusiastic support from edwards followed by wishy-washy evasions when push came to shove. edwards can start a fine, fine talk but doesn't seem able to finish the walk. unfortunately this whole episode reminds me of how pres. clinton dealt with shrill reactions to lani gaunier's atty general nomination. if the rightwingers learn they can get edwards to jump or even just quiver, they will just keep screaming.

too bad, i liked the guy. if he starts caving now . . .

Don't you mean, "You won't get fooled again?"

:P

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Jeff Fecke
http://www.moderateleft.com

Why aren't people outraged about poverty in this country?

We are.

Why aren't people outraged about Iraq?

We are.

Why aren't people outraged about healthcare in this country?

We are.

It's precisely because I'm outraged that I want someone who will fight these people to the death in 2008. If Edwards caves on a minor issue with low-level heat now, he will cave on a big issue later. That's not the standard-bearer we want.

Sorry, Edwards had my vote at the start of today. Whether he caves or not is going to determine whether he has my vote at the end of it.

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Jeff Fecke
http://www.moderateleft.com

Kerry and Clark were the only big Democrats who came out looking good in the CT Senate race last year, IMO. I lost respect for Russ Feingold when he was silent about Lieberman's $387,000 petty cash. Feingold made his name on campaign finance; is it OK with Russ Feingold to open up a $387,000 petty cash loophole?

I read that John Edwards more or less invited himself to CT right after Lamont won the nomination and used his appearance to talk about his poverty issue rather than something that would have helped Ned Lamont.

Why did they fire Melissa? This whole controversy has been about Marcotte I thought. I mean you can find easily find Marcotte posts to portray her as a Total Bitch(tm) but McEwan has never come off that way that I know of.

No, no, let's waste all of our outrage on whether or not hiring two bloggers was a good or bad idea....Oo, the "netroots" is going to be mad at him. Who cares?

Um, since we're bloggers here, the topic's certainly of interest, no? 

And since the netroots have built themselves up to a place where they have meaning in the political process, of course it matters whether or not his credibility is shot with a section of the Democratic Party.

Dissent Protects Democracy.

If you're going to claim that cultural/sexual issues have nothing to do with "the two Americas" then I'd venture you have little contact with the laborers in this country. Go to any working class bar when work is getting out. Talk with the gals and guys about politics, religion, sex - all the stuff that in this day the working classes are much more comfortable being frank and funny about than the upper classes are - and you'll see that these topics mix freely, often in the same sentences.

Look, we're monkeys. Power and wealth are about sex. But so is the power of those who aren't wealthy. Encouraging sexual repression and fear among the workers is a way to undercut their power. Reserving crude language for the right wingers and railing against anyone of the center or left who "dares" talk or write that way is a method to enforce a solidarity with the workers - who do largely talk that way - as the preserve of the extreme right.

If we want to f**king connect with the workers, we can't go around pretending our minds and ears are too tender for their common uses of a language which, as any Shakespeare among us would attest, belongs to them just as much as to us educated fops.

I don't like it, it presumes that there is something to "regret" beyond the instigation of the fake controversy. Some people actually are assholes, bitches, and Preznit Horse-Crankers and I don't think it's should be regrettable to make that observation.

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