Yeah, but Biden and some other Dems have a lot of work to do to reverse Bush's disastrous Iraq policy which they voted to give him a blank check on back in October 2002.

Tom

Bush alone has prosecuted the war from day 1. That vote was not a reason or excuse for Bush to screw up monumentally.

When Dick Gephardt stood behind King Bozo in the Rose Garden in 2002, I said that there was NO WAY IN HELL that I would ever vote for any bozo that backed him in that vote. Gephardt paid the price for stupidity, as did Kerry. Who else voted to empower King Dumbfuck?

Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Biden, etc. ad nauseum.

Tom

Bush's expectation for the verdict of history on Iraq--"Just a comma".

The Constitution requires the Congress to declare war, not the President.  That is for a very good reason, and the Iraq fiasco demonstrates the wisdom of that requirement.  Unfortunately, on one has, to my knowledge, challenged in court the fallacy that Congress can delegate any of its responsibilities to the President.  If that is ever done, and if the Supreme Court rules correctly, we may at long last be back to where the Congress and only the Congress can start a war.  Of course I'm not holding my breath.

Now the open question is whether or not the 2002 Congress would have declared war on Iraq at Bush's request, if he had so requested it.  I'm afraid my answer is yes.

Hoppy in Sacramento

They just issued the blank check as the 1964 Congress did for LBJ's Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. That way the weasels can vote for war without admitting they're voting for war.

Tom

Who the heck was in that audiance anyways!?!?!

Nobody likes the show - why not cancel it and let some other brodcasting onto the airways?

Men often hate each other because they fear each other; they fear each other because they don't know each other; they don't know each other because they can not communicate; they can not communicate because they are separated.

This is true, but in this case they voted for war and, for all intents and purposes, admitted they were voting for war.

Biden has a lot of nerve, because its HIS war as well.

Democrats gave Bush the power to start a war with Iraq based on the "knowledge" that Saddam had WMDs -- and that the only way to eliminate that "threat" was war. That was forgiveable -- "everyone knew" something in September 2002, and acted on it.

But its Joe Biden's war too, because by March 2003 it was obvious that the "knowledge" that was the basis of the AUMF vote was faulty -- and Biden and every other Democrat who was fooled into voting for the AUMF should have been screaming bloody murder about the lies (and it was obvious that they were lies) Bush was telling to justify a war.

I care about the October 2002 vote and the August 1964 vote. If more people in Congress had had courage and/or wisdom on those votes the needless death and destruction in Iraq and Vietnam could have been avoided. Since our idiot President and Vice President didn't pay attention to Vietnam we suffered through Vietnam and Iraq. Since not enough of our representatives learned the lessons of the August 1964 vote we have to live through Iraq.

I've already addressed my support for Kuchinich's resolution to cut off all military funding for Iraq except to bring the troops safely home in a previous post.

I'm trying to post a discussion table about Robert Scheer's most recent column explaining that Ike's old military-industrial complex is why we're still in Iraq.

Tom

... to Gephardt's (House) and Daschle's (Senate) everlasting shame.

Tom

Cut off the funds. GWB is counting on the war continuing well into the next administration and history forgetting that it was his fiasco. Cutting funds on his watch leaves the entire debacle on his shoulders, right where it belongs.