Wow.

I like both of these ads.  I like the Kyl one much more than the one on Allen.  Just what is ethical slopiness?

The Kyl ad is crisp, concise and flows consistently. The opening is very powerful with the state symbol vs. WH and then it just gets to the core...Tired of him listening to them..instead of you...had enough?  Awesome.

I think the two are in different media environments. Given a barrage of negative advertising in Virginia, I think it makes sense to build the Allen ad out of quotes from VA newspapers ... and then that means you take what you can get. If "ethical sloppiness" is as close as the WaPo will come to saying Allen is a completely corrupt sleazeball, that's what you quote.

And the spread is important too ... the WaPo from Northern VA, Hampton Roads, which AFAIU is in the Tidewater (?), Roanoke in central western VA.

I agree that these ads are better than most, but they are very telling in that once again the DC Dems have only awakened moments before the election. The people who call the shots for our party in Washington are basically cowards who only have the courage to strike the foe at the very last moment and then only when they already can wiff victory in the air--not because of their doing mind, but in spite of it. Had these ads and others of the same tone been airing across the nation since Labor Day the Democratic Tsunami on Tuesday would be of historic proportions but alas these ads appear only at the last moment, again but perhaps this time not too late to make a difference. Whatever happens on election day there should be a major league purge of Democratic consultants and advisors who have counseled caution and timidity this year. That is how they can be identified. Those who have, since the spring counseled an agressive---go after them strategy are the ones you want to keep around in the future. The rest should be shown the door once and for all--for the sake of the nation and its future. We cannot afford anymore lilly livered campaigns!

These are the kinds of commercials an aggressive coordinated national campaign would have started running months ago.

The problem we Democrats have is that we are led by a bunch of insiders who want to stay insiders. They don't like making waves.

The first thing we need to do is find young people who are not afraid of a fight. How about all those young men and women returning from Iraq. A lot of them seem plenty tough and filled with integrity.

After next week's election I think the top topic of this and every other blog has to be how do we the regular citizens go about growing the grassroot organizations in all 50 states.

If we don't hold them accountable, next week winners are going to look just like the Republicans they replace in a very few years.

Ron Byers

They both stink.

Now here's an ad!

Yeah, Ned's a little stiff in the acting department, but it's just light years ahead of the boring, unimaginative, uninspiring pablum put out by the DSCC.

Mac
Patriots Left

Sorry to reiterate a bit but these are the kind of ads that will get TiVoed right over.

If "ethical sloppiness" is as close as the WaPo will come to saying Allen is a completely corrupt sleazeball, that's what you quote.

OIC. thanks...couldn't figure how they put together that phraseology.