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CT-SEN: Times Endorses Lamont: Taking On Lieb "Showed Real Courage"

The New York Times, which backed Ned Lamont in the Dem primary against Joe Lieberman, today gives the nod to Lamont again in strikingly glowing terms: "[Lieberman] and Mr. Bush are still on the very same page, encouraging the American people to believe that there is a happy ending for American involvement in Iraq, and that all it takes is the perseverance to keep marching toward the end of the rainbow. Ned Lamont has run a far less polished campaign than Mr. Lieberman, but the more we see of him, the more impressed we are by his intelligence and his growing sophistication about the issues facing the nation...his willingness to take on Mr. Lieberman when no one else dared to do it showed real courage and conviction." Full editorial after the jump.

Update: Lieberman picks up the endorsements of the Hartford Courant and the New Haven Register.

NYT:

The Congressional elections are very much about America’s problems in Iraq. But the campaigns have shed little light on exactly what should happen next. Nowhere is that more true than in Connecticut. The two leading candidates, Ned Lamont and Joseph Lieberman, have clear disagreements over whether invading Iraq was a good idea in the first place, but grow much fuzzier when the question of future strategy comes up.

Mr. Lieberman, a three-term Democratic senator now running as an independent, talks about the threat of Islamic terrorism. Mr. Lamont, who beat Mr. Lieberman in the Democratic primary, reminds voters what a mess the invasion created. When it comes to the next step, Mr. Lieberman seems to mimic the Bush administration’s proposal to stay the course (while no longer mentioning that toxic phrase) with new tactics. Mr. Lamont is close to the Senate Democrats (minus Mr. Lieberman) who demanded a timetable for withdrawal without being too firm on what that ought to entail.

No one expects legislators to dictate military tactics. But what we need from the next crop of elected officials in Washington is a willingness to face reality, to choose from among difficult options and have the courage to be honest with the public about the consequences. On those points, Mr. Lamont is by far the better candidate.

Two months ago, Connecticut’s Democratic voters sent Mr. Lieberman what should have been a jarring wake-up call when they rejected him for Mr. Lamont, a relative newcomer. We have been waiting to see what lessons the state’s best-known politician took from his defeat, and from the daily evidence of the deterioration of the situation in Iraq.

We wanted to see a capacity for growth and change in Mr. Lieberman. The country is full of Republicans who now realize the Iraq invasion was a disaster, either in its basic concept or in its execution. The most honorable of them are in agony over what has happened. Mr. Lieberman, who had not only continually defended the administration’s Iraq policy but also attacked Democrats who criticized the president, had more cause for soul-searching than most.

But instead of re-evaluating his own positions, Mr. Lieberman blamed his constituents for failing to notice that he had offered some negative comments about the conduct of the war, too, mainly when he was running for the Democratic nomination for president in 2004. He did not protest when Dick Cheney said that people who voted for Mr. Lamont were giving comfort to “Al Qaeda types.” His only reflection seemed devoted to a re-examination of the rules for getting back on the ballot.

Since his primary defeat, Mr. Lieberman has run a well-packaged campaign built around his self-assigned bipartisan image — “It’s not about politics,” say his ads. But it is very much about politics — from the flood of special interest campaign donations that has been running Mr. Lieberman’s way to the old Karl Rove lesson that political winners never admit to error.

We are living in perilous times. Being able to work with the opposition party — Mr. Lieberman’s claim to fame — is hardly a sign of moral courage when the opposition party controls the White House, Senate and House of Representatives. President Bush did not need Mr. Lieberman’s persistent support on Iraq when he had the deference of his own party members in Congress. What the country needed — and what Connecticut had the right to expect — was for Mr. Lieberman to risk some of his bipartisan clout to call attention to the way Iraq was spiraling out of control.

The fatal problem with Mr. Lieberman’s candidacy is not that he was wrong about the invasion, but that he has not shown any capacity to grow and change. Suggesting that getting rid of Donald Rumsfeld might be a good idea is hardly a breakthrough at a time when the secretary of defense’s supporters are pretty much limited to the president and members of the Rumsfeld family.

Mr. Lieberman has changed his tone but not his underlying conviction that he has been right all along. He and Mr. Bush are still on the very same page, encouraging the American people to believe that there is a happy ending for American involvement in Iraq, and that all it takes is the perseverance to keep marching toward the end of the rainbow.

Ned Lamont has run a far less polished campaign than Mr. Lieberman, but the more we see of him, the more impressed we are by his intelligence and his growing sophistication about the issues facing the nation. He is very much in the Connecticut mold of basically moderate, principled politicians, and his willingness to take on Mr. Lieberman when no one else dared to do it showed real courage and conviction. He would make a good senator. More important, he has the capacity to continually become a better one. We endorse Ned Lamont for Senate.


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S.J.RES.46

Title: A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.

Sponsor: Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. [CT] (introduced 10/2/2002)

 

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Yeah, and what you absent mindedly forgot to report was that the Hartford Courant (i.e. the LOCAL paper) endorsed Lieberman today. How careless of you...

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The New Haven Register also gave LIEberman their endorsement in todays paper. One mark against, Lamont: His "failure to disclose his wife's tax returns"....sounds an awful lot like ol' Joe's own campaign talking point. Hey, Register, get real here, where is Joe's money coming from? Is he getting it because he is just sooo nice of a guy?

Also this gem from them:

Elect Simmons in 2nd District

U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons, R-2, worked overtime last year to save the Navy submarine base in Groton. His assignment was charting strategy, lobbying members of the base closure commission and keeping fellow House members informed....

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Nice to see garyadams inject a note of reality here.

When did Punch Jr.--Times publisher--move to Connecticut?
Come November 8, I hope he'll eat Lamont's crow along with the rest of you Joe-haters.

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I'm curious: How many people have to die before this becomes about something other than "Joe haters" for you people?

Just once I'd love to read a post from one of you "Joe lovers" about why Lieberman deserves re-election. Without mentioning Ned Lamont, without screeching about people opposed to this war being "outside the mainstream", make a positive case for Joseph Cheney Brownie Alito Rice Gonzalez Rumsfeld Iraq Lieberman. Name one actual achievement this snivelling, sanctimonious prick has to his name after eighteen years in the Senate. We always hear about his 'leadership', the Courant endorsement specifically drags out the old saw about how 'respected' Lieberman is for his ability to reach across the aisle and 'get things done'. They were either too dumb or too smart (and thus dishonest) to name one of these things he has supposedly gotten done.

Pick up the gauntlet, O Wise One: Tell us all about Joe's actual record.

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and you forgot to mention that Lieberman's campaign is being subsidized by Mike Bloomberg and Al d'Amato.

a mere oversight on your part, I'm sure.

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Err, I didn't mention it because this was a piece talking about ENDORSEMENTS, not funding. But I'll overlook your very silly outburst given that you're clearly distraught over the self-destruction of the ludicrous, weak, dissembling, left-wing Ned Lamont. Bless.

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Happy to. From the start, because I want senators who don't pander to irrational, hysterical idiots who evidently want their foreign policy determined by the number of US troops tragically killed in action.

Or how about because I want senators who put the national interest ahead of the knee-jerk extremists in their own political party?

Or how about because a senator's responsibility is to advise and consent to the President's nominees to the positions he is obliged to appoint to - and given the other lot won, the only basis for not fulfilling both parts of that responsibility is if the nominee in question is incompetent or unqualified - neither of which Justice Alito is?

Or because Joe Lieberman, however much far-left cranks like you try to characterise him, is in fact a moderate Democrat, which is why the National Journal gave him a 62% liberal rating in 2004 and 66% in 2003?

Or because Lieberman's seniority gives Connecticut real clout in the Senate?

Or because he's delivered for Connecticut, like securing the naval base, and significant transport infrastructure improvements?

Or because it's reprehensible how people like you have treated a Democratic Vice Presidential nominee and you should be ashamed of yourself?

If you'd like some more, just ask - I'm always happy to enlighten the ignorant and deluded. I consider it a civic responsibility.

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Ah, Gary. I'm so glad you stopped trying to pretend to be concerned, and just let your nasty little angry freak flag fly. I can tell just reading this and your other post how much happier you are insulting people than trying to impersonate a reasonable person.

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garyadams, if you can read the posts between you and blue objectively, you'll see how foolish you sound.
You can mention the "local" endorsement to contrast the "out of state" endorsement of the most prestigious paper in the nations (unless you think Pulitzer Prizes are a piece of crap) , but blue can't mention the funding from out-of-state, because the topic is endorsements? What a joke. It's called discourse, and it's a point well taken.

Also, why this:
... I'll overlook your very silly outburst given that you're clearly distraught over the self-destruction of the ludicrous, weak, dissembling, left-wing Ned Lamont.

And then:
Bless.

LMFAO!

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Here's what I said:

, without screeching about people opposed to this war being "outside the mainstream", make a positive case for Joseph Cheney Brownie Alito Rice Gonzalez Rumsfeld Iraq Lieberman.

Here's what Gary said:

pander to irrational, hysterical idiots
knee-jerk extremists
far-left cranks like you
reprehensible
ignorant and deluded

So this is a positive defense of the Lieberman candidacy? okay.

Aways such a pleasure to engage in substantive discussion with a reasonable, thoughtful interlocutor.

I've never thought of people who believe in the Constitution as cranks, hysterics, or ignorant, deluded extremists. But then I think torture is a bad thing and things like habeus corpus, the separation of powers, and Congressional oversight of the Executive are good things. In fact, I've all always thought of those things as fundamental to our system of government. I guess I'm way out of the Lieberman-Gary Adams mainstream.

Nice touch that you remembered to say "Democratic" instead of "Democrat", too. You guys are getting better at this.

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Um, I think Blue asked about specific positive things Joe has done. I guess you answered the question by your inability to name one SINGLE thing. Thanks

Jan Knaus

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Times Endorses Lamont: Taking On Lieb "Showed Real Courage"

Real Courage?
ROFLMAO


The sons of the prophet are noble and bold,
and quite unaccustomed to fear.
But the bravest by far in the ranks of the Shah
was Abdul Abulbul Amir

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Oh, come on boys and girls; let's call a spade a spade. Is Mr. Lieberman looking out for our interests, the interests of the United States, or interests of another kind? To quote a line from Braveheart,one of my favorite movies; a memorable line from a true psychopath, Longshanks, reminiscent of Republican Neocons mindset:

"My scouts tell me their archers are miles away and no threat to us. Arrows cost money. Use up the Irish. Their dead cost nothing."

Let's call the spade what it is, shall we?

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